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Re: FEED FOR GERMANY WAS:Re: An apology, and a question (uucp in Germany)

#178
From: Systems Staff
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1989 02:31
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In article <3631@ddsw1.MCS.COM>, karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes:
> In article <114@utower.UUCP> fischer@utower.UUCP (Axel Fischer) writes:
> >In article <786@redsox.bsw.com> campbell@redsox.bsw.com (Larry Campbell) writes:
> 
> >>can NOT believe that it costs $47,000 per month just to get Usenet
> >>traffic across the ocean!!
> 
The posting from the EUUG board member states that the full news feed
is only shared by 35 sites and that a full feed is $150 so we are
looking at an order of magnitude less cash here if he is correctly
informed.

Transmission via high speed modem (e.g. Telebit which I gather from
other postings is the fastest legal modem) would take on the order of
an hour per night which at $1.50/minute (his figure) would be around
$2700 per month out of the $5250 from the above full subscription
figure. There are obviously other costs, so this looks like a reasonable
amount.

Sounds to me like they are engaging in a classic case of pricing
themselves out of the market. I find it hard to believe that they
couldn't find ten times as many clients at $30/month for a doubling
of their revenue.

Remember, they don't direct feed everyone; you pay them even if you
get the news by relay.

 Thos Sumner       Internet: thos@cca.ucsf.edu
 (The I.G.)        UUCP: ...ucbvax!ucsfcgl!cca.ucsf!thos
                   BITNET:  thos@ucsfcca

 U.S. Mail:  Thos Sumner, Computer Center, Rm U-76, UCSF
             San Francisco, CA 94143-0704 USA

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Subject: Re: FEED FOR GERMANY   WAS:Re: An apology, and a question (uucp in Germany)
Summary: Then there are the alternatives ...
       : International sneakernet anyone?
Message-ID: <2136@ucsfcca.ucsf.edu>
Date: 23 Jun 89 02:31:49 GMT
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Organization: Computer Center, UCSF
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