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Re: mail and news in Europe

#188
From: Daniel Karrenberg
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1989 11:03
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In article <WISNER.89Jun23144304@anableps.berkeley.edu> 
wisner@mica.Berkeley.EDU (Bill Wisner) writes:
>Who administers the top-level domains in Europe? If they are maintained by
>EUnet/EUUG, do only EUUG members get to join those domains? 

In some countries the organisations running EUnet backbone host have
indeed registered the Internet toplevel domain with SRI-NIC.
They act as clearing houses according to the rules and will
register subdomains of anyone who wants them according to the rules.
EUUG or EUnet members get no preferential treatment whatsoever.
This is more than can be said of some academic networks having registered
the toplevel domains in other countries. Also EUnet has been very active
in many countries to achieve coordination of email delivery using
domain addresses.

>Now that several European countries (including France, Denmark, The
>Netherlands, Norway, Sweden and Finland) are directly connected to the
>Internet, will NNTP help bring down the costs of getting news into Europe?

:-) :-) :-( :-( :-( 
Yes of course. Since every site connected to the Internet will set up an 
NNTP feed from some site in the US. The news will get over here very chaeply 
and with about 2 months delay because the links are so clogged.
:-( :-( :-( :-( :-(.

One of the two (soon three) transatlantic links providing the
abovementioned Internet connectivity is maintained and financed by EUnet
in cooperation with UUNET. It's paid out of sharing the cost for bringing 
news into Europe and by organisations actually paying for mail.  

This connectivity is not for free!  Yes, having a leased line will bring
down the cost *as long as everybody pays their share*.  If cheating starts
in a big way then the money will not be sufficent to keep (or upgrade) the line,
the connectivity will go away and everybody looses. 
This is why there is agreement among the organisations providing
Internet access in the abovementioned countries that sites receiving
news via this infrastructure should pay their normal EUnet news
subscription and use the hierarchical distribution scheme that minimises
transmissions on expensive links.

Daniel
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Daniel Karrenberg                    Future Net:  <dfk@cwi.nl>
CWI, Amsterdam                        Oldie Net:  mcvax!dfk
The Netherlands          Because It's There Net:  DFK@MCVAX
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From: dfk@cwi.nl (Daniel Karrenberg)
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Subject: Re: mail and news in Europe
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Date: 26 Jun 89 11:03:05 GMT
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