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Article #3407Forcing news and mail software upgrades Re: Crossposting and Followups (was Re: stupid question)
From: Kent Paul Dolan
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 1991 23:07
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 1991 23:07
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peter@taronga.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: > jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens) writes: >> In other words, sites that don't deal properly with unknown >> newsgroups in the Newsgroups or Followup-To field, > Anyone running B news, that is. >> or news readers that don't deal properly with "poster" in the >> Followup-To field, > Such as "rn". >> are broken. > So what do you suggest should be done about it? There is an easy, draconian, well known solution to masses of crufty old software that no one wants around except the sites too lazy to upgrade. You make a generation of software whose data files are _not_ upward compatible from previous generations. You publicize it widely, you make it capable of reading the old files, but not of writing them, and you install it; anyone who doesn't upgrade is rapidly out of business. I suggest sufficient cause would be to regularlize the address mess across all nets everywhere into one, universally accepted style, different from everything now running. I just had the joyless experience of having the postmaster and his manager at purdue.edu tell me that that huge site _by_ _policy_, refuses to even attempt to process uucp style addresses on incoming mail, so that responses to mail or news from purdue.edu from anything but the most up to date software and maps, anything not in internet domain format, is just bounced. Great attitude toward both their users expecting answers to their mail, and toward the rest of the net, but it is symptomatic of the frustration the current mess causes everyone. The only possible fix involves _invalidating_ all the crufty old software. Is it time? Kent, the man from xanth. <xanthian@Zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <xanthian@well.sf.ca.us> -- Please?
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From: xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan)
Newsgroups: news.admin,news.software.b
Subject: Forcing news and mail software upgrades
Re: Crossposting and Followups (was Re: stupid question)
Message-ID: <1991Feb15.230729.20778@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>
Date: 15 Feb 91 23:07:29 GMT
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