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9 total messages Started by Sysop Tue, 27 Oct 1992 20:09
Proposal: New Newsgroup Heirarchy
#8
Author: Sysop
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 20:09
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I would like to propose a new heirarchy:


TOPICAL.*


The purpose would be for topics that are not of a permanent nature.
Of course it's too late now, but some prime examples of a topical group
would be:

topical.election
topical.election.clinton
topical.election.perot
topical.rodney.king
topical.virus.michaelangelo(sp?)
topical.hurrricane.andrew
topical.recession
topical.soviet-union

The groups within this heirarchy would last througout the lifetime of
the topic itself, and then would be cancelled.  Of course, there would
have to be new guidelines for proposing a new topic within this heirarchy,
as a long voting period would defeat the purpose of 'timely' topical
newsgroups.  Perhaps a 

topical.config   

would be a solution to this, with its own guidelines for creating new groups

I would appreciate any comments about this proposal, and would not
appreciate flames. :-)

P.S.  I cross-posted this to alt.config also, as a possible alternative,
to make a sub-heirarchy 'alt.topical.*'   But I think that it would deserve
its own heirarchy.

Thanks for listening

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Re: Proposal: New Newsgroup Heirarchy
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Author: Tim Pierce
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 20:21
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In article <LIa7qAJNBh107h@momad.UUCP> taz%momad@infoserv.com writes:

>P.S.  I cross-posted this to alt.config also, as a possible alternative,
>to make a sub-heirarchy 'alt.topical.*'   But I think that it would deserve
>its own heirarchy.

In response to alt.inet92, I newgrouped alt.current-events.inet92 a
long time ago for that *very* purpose.  Unfortunately, the nature of
"topical" newsgroups causes people to rush out and send out newgroup
messages uncontrollably without suggesting them to begin with,
defeating the idea of a hierarchy for them.  Still, the hierarchy is
there should anyone care to use it.

Nice try, though.

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Re: Proposal: New Newsgroup Heirarchy
#27
Author: Ed McGuire
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 23:10
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In article <LIa7qAJNBh107h@momad.UUCP> taz@momad.UUCP (Sysop) writes:

   topical.election
   topical.election.clinton
   topical.election.perot
   topical.rodney.king
   topical.virus.michaelangelo(sp?)
   topical.hurrricane.andrew
   topical.recession
   topical.soviet-union

Why not alt.election, etc?  Really?  Or how about trial.election?
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Re: Proposal: New Newsgroup Heirarchy
#23
Author: Gerry Swetsky
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1992 02:29
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In article <LIa7qAJNBh107h@momad.UUCP> taz%momad@infoserv.com writes:
>
>I would like to propose a new heirarchy:

    Oh no, not again.

>The groups within this heirarchy would last througout the lifetime of
>the topic itself, and then would be cancelled.

    Then Bruce Becker would newgroup them again.  Isn't this fun?

>Of course, there would
>have to be new guidelines for proposing a new topic within this heirarchy,
>as a long voting period would defeat the purpose of 'timely' topical
>newsgroups.

    And what good are guidelines when you have jerks that have no
    respect for the net?

>I would appreciate any comments about this proposal, and would not
>appreciate flames. :-)

    Please - leave us alone.

>Thanks for listening

    <sigh>

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Re: Proposal: New Newsgroup Heirarchy
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Author: Daniel Zabetakis
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1992 21:07
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In article <EMCGUIRE.92Oct28171011@fuller.intellection.com> emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire) writes:
>In article <LIa7qAJNBh107h@momad.UUCP> taz@momad.UUCP (Sysop) writes:
>
>   topical.election
[others deleted]

>
>Why not alt.election, etc?  Really?  Or how about trial.election?

   I think the point is that the groups in this hierarchy would be removed
after a short period of time. Perhaps a group would be created with a 
specific sunset date. If it is to extend beyond that date, then it would
need a new vote. 
   I think the idea is to have real rules about voting, but with fewer
votes needed. So alt and trial (does anyone get trial?) aren't the same.

DanZ

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Re: Proposal: New Newsgroup Heirarchy
#45
Author: earthbound misfit, I
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 06:44
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lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky) writes:

> taz%momad@infoserv.com writes:
>
> >I would like to propose a new heirarchy:
> 
>     Oh no, not again.
> 
> >The groups within this heirarchy would last througout the lifetime of
> >the topic itself, and then would be cancelled.
> 
>     Then Bruce Becker would newgroup them again.  Isn't this fun?
> 
> >Of course, there would
> >have to be new guidelines for proposing a new topic within this heirarchy,
> >as a long voting period would defeat the purpose of 'timely' topical
> >newsgroups.
> 
>     And what good are guidelines when you have jerks that have no
>     respect for the net?

That's not quite correct. Bruce, deranged as he is, actually believes he's
doing things correctly according to the "guidelines" of alt. The proposal
here for a new bottom-level heirarchy would have a completely different set
of guidelines.

It's possible that not enough people will support such a heirarchy for it
to succeed, but that's an entirely different issue. 

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Re: Proposal: New Newsgroup Heirarchy
#56
Author: Richard M. Hartman
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 23:03
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I think a "topical.*" heirarchy might be a good idea.  There are
a heck of a lot of alt.* groups, some serious, some not.  If you want
to talk about the issues of the day, it would be easier to find them
if you had a specific place to look for them. 

			-Richard Hartman
			hartman@uLogic.COM

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Re: Proposal: New Newsgroup Heirarchy
#57
Author: Richard M. Hartman
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 23:07
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In article <1992Oct29.022926.2422@vpnet.chi.il.us> lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky) writes:
>In article <LIa7qAJNBh107h@momad.UUCP> taz%momad@infoserv.com writes:
>>
>>I would like to propose a new heirarchy:
>
>    Oh no, not again.

This starts out well.  Obviously this will be a level headed,
thoughtful, reply.

>>The groups within this heirarchy would last througout the lifetime of
>>the topic itself, and then would be cancelled.
>
>    Then Bruce Becker would newgroup them again.  Isn't this fun?

Put a Becker filter on your new group script.

>>Of course, there would
>>have to be new guidelines for proposing a new topic within this heirarchy,
>>as a long voting period would defeat the purpose of 'timely' topical
>>newsgroups.
>
>    And what good are guidelines when you have jerks that have no
>    respect for the net?

There are always jerks.  You find jerks all over the highways, does
that stop you from driving?

>>I would appreciate any comments about this proposal, and would not
>>appreciate flames. :-)
>
>    Please - leave us alone.

Yes, please do.  Unless you have some actual REASONS that this proposal
might not be a good idea.  Snide remarks have little informational
content.


		-Richard Hartman
		hartman@ulogic.COM

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Re: Proposal: New Newsgroup Heirarchy
#86
Author: Ian Dickinson
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 17:32
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In article <1992Oct29.210720.24740@news.columbia.edu> dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis) writes:
>>Why not alt.election, etc?  Really?  Or how about trial.election?
>   I think the point is that the groups in this hierarchy would be removed
>after a short period of time.

This reinforces the need for a hierarchy outside of alt.* since there
are some strange people who view an rmgroup within alt to be a crime
of horrific proportions.

alt.* should be fine for this sort of thing, but back in the real usenet
world - things are different.

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