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Author: mcs
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 13:02
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If you don't have a hard time breathin here, you will never have a hard time
breathin. Particulate Pollution reading at levels that are harming me and
many families with  links  to damage show probable cause.If you were to get
experts to  compare productivity by age, hospital admission percentage by
age, stress test results, ,number of people with asthma/ respiratory
problem, cancers, depression, murders, people without jobs, lowest home
prices for homes in major cities, you would have to find Philly. We have
politicians who don't care. Again the PM particulate pollution reading way
way above average,, and virtually no days of good air for weeks., they now
talk about soot pollution which we get also.. from coal.. out west. , again
everyone will feel its wrath whether they know it in the area. Think before
you move your business or family here., I have realatives with baby and
beside my own automatic lung constriction and damage, from this at  so
called only moderate levels, I have seen friends moms and brothers also
suffer when these reading are moderate or above. Other places in Pa get it
also but Philly get its the worse then any city I have ever seen. I have
realatives with babies and they see them cry more when compared when taken
them to clean air cities.  The world is made for people who understand
information ( society is cold hearted, they will kill you simply because
they are selfish and you didn't do your homework and this killing is slow or
they can provide jobs for people). , Not only do most people in Philly and
some NE and SE states get more asthma. ,and  get more days of consistent
particulate pollution , they get the susbsequent more illnessesfrom
different condition again and again more  over time. (thats my guess)What
weather newspeople call beautiful is seldom challenged because its dangerous
often enough for those downwind.. Please remember I tried to make a
difference in your families life. What I have seen I only described as tip
of iceburg. I lived my life probably with more sensitivity to this but not
without real connections to be able to warn people faster. Particulate
pollution and its affects are being put on people for whatever reason at
unfair levels in some places more then others.  . It may not consist
entirely of the same things for every state in the US but its not good
whereever it is nonetheless. Thats why not every place who gets it , gets
the same amount of asthma but I have no reservations to suggest when you
take both ozone and soot and particulate pollution numbers together and you
get moderate amounts or worse consistenty you and family are at a distinct
disadvantage and the main reason for many people with asthma and asthma /
respiratory condition. . They will bring out charts to counter what I have
said, but I can poke holes in all the charts. They make generalization which
if taken as a whole suggest cleaner air, but I assure you this is not true
for millions of people. most affected.

When I first suggested the particulate pollution was great here, someone
showed me a chart in which we didnt' get the most. However that chart was
not what I had monitored,, it didn't take in account how often an area is
exposed!!! so there are ways they can get away with poisoning you and show
you your not if your guillible. Follow the money trail.. if ad agencies come
to your city to promote asthma/ nebulizers and lung centers all day and
night.. know your family is in big trouble.   In addition to the emissions,
the diesel emission, the coal pollution there is added co2. . I lived my
life by paying energy more then anything else in order for them to poison me
and then spend the rest of the time listening to commercials for hospitals
to go to after tthey are allowed to poison you. Do your research.. The
people left here are people who don't know, too young to care about
consequences or who have not read of the consequences. Please cut and paste.
If you have asthma  and need the money. I can't think of a better place to
prove damage then this city for disability. Do not live a life of illness
cause you didn't know . Ps I don't advising lying or coming here for
anyreason to tell you the truth even if you have mild asthma, because no
amount of money will be worth attaining worse respiratory health and this
city is the worse ( see my air filters which turn black for final proof and
I posted it on net) but if you need to survive and are suffering, I can't
think of a better city to prove damage. If you can't prove damage contact
me.. from what I hear any lawyer can prove damage...When you get conditions
from smoking and eating wrong, you can change, for people in this area its
imposed on them. This is the largest conspiracy to sicken people and get
away with it in history and I truly believe that in my heart the gov knows
of the consequences of what is going on. ...



>>
>> when I realized what had and has happened, to people and myself in 
>> certain
>> areas of the country, I realized life is about deception, lies and murder
>> by
>> energy and politicians as long as they can get away with it or not have
>> media inform people of the variations of consequences.... so we have
>> energy
>> that not only poisons people consistently with many days of warning air,
>> we
>> get air also that is described as mild levels that causes much illness 
>> too
>> which of course is and added insult and lie also.. Many people downwind
>> from
>> coal and disel and emission  lived a life of  consequences  from illness(
>> some of us) and lowered productivity and increased illness, even 
>> amazingly
>> with links proving most asthma and respiratory death and prescriptions 
>> for
>> respiratory meds, and more cancers, and  more people who didn't graduate
>> high school and college, and tens of thousands who need welfare or
>> disability and hardly ever get clean air compared to those that do 
>> without
>> being protected in history . with home prices many worked hard for to be
>> one
>> of the lowest in the nation, with most depression in the nation, with up
>> to
>> fifty percent of the households without anyone working,,,..while some
>> including me say we  can do more about cleaning the air  but have not, as
>> we
>> are still poisoning many people with lethal levels of this air and I have
>> no
>> doubt of the consequneces. The imposed poisoning of people in PA and NE
>> and
>> appeasment of  energy at the expense of those in harms way is one of the
>> biggest conspiracies to allow harm without protecting people in our
>> lifetime. I appreciate affordable energy, and I like the freedom of
>> expression, the computers , the things that make life better but I 
>> despise
>> what I have seen from family and friends affected compared to people who
>> get
>> clean air. We simply are not protected and have lost our life and many
>> years
>> of happiness to people who don't care about others and in fact have 
>> others
>> come here to capitalize on their illhealhth via commercial and commercial
>> and ads for health cares and workers to train for healthcare and 
>> hospitals
>> after they are posioned. . I not only paid more money for energy, I paid
>> it
>> so they can poison me and then pay people to treat me after the
>> consititution didn't protect me from undue harm so help me God.  I wonder
>> how a christian/ jewish / muslim nation can live with those accusations 
>> of
>> truth..Call it global warming, I know it affects more people now, in the
>> US
>> via pollution then most anything harmful without a press to go over why
>> and
>> how ...Before you say its not happening to you, its happening to
>> others.the next five days we are going to get warning levels of air
> and does anyone know what its like to get no good air for months.. the
> affect of eveything that is good and families and babies? Why do good 
> people
> allow this to happen and support those in power who do. I am not against
> energy , I am just for protecting the people who get the most bad affects
> over and over again without a way to get out of harmsway., The point where
> this causes harm and people do the studies please!!! is the point 
> something
> should be done now~  please help those
> in way of energy that are being harmed the most.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> the differences in quality of life betweenthose who get this pollution
>>> everyday and those who don't can be proved and its the difference 
>>> between
>>> optimism and pessimism between success and failure and even life and
>>> death
>>> yet no one is trying to help people get out harms way. We get pollution
>>> every other day at least with moderate or worse particulate pollution, 
>>> we
>>> have people in record numbers needing medication and we have commercial
>>> after commercial for healthcare and lung centers. Why do I have to live
>>> under such horrid conditions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> . There is no fairness in the US
>>> or protection from harm guaranteed under the constitution. We now have
>>> our
>>> politticians and media ignore the implications. We are being murdered by
>>> gov
>>> and energy policies so help me God.
>>>
>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> ----- >> Subject: Warning level pollution, record temps, over and over
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> third warning level day  this week, no good days of air so
>>>>>>> far,,,,,not
>>>>>>> a peep on the news. totally ignored.
>>>>>>> gasping
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> breath , had to go to emergency ward. We get this practically
>>>>>>> everyweek ,in summer,,is
>>>>>>> this world devoid of concern or care, what the fk is happening. It
>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> be happening where you are BUT YOU HAVE TO WONDER WHY why they even
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> numbers
>>>>>>> from epa when they rate the level of pollutants only to  ignore 
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> anything about it.when its doing harm!!!!!! This is not what I
>>>>>>> envisioned the US would be growing up. I am living in godless mean
>>>>>>> tempered
>>>>>>> society controlled by both democrats and republicans who don't care 
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> again day after day in east coast , home values lowest  in my city
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> have more days of pollution, more people needing meds, more people
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> pay for meds for something that is not their fault after being
>>>>>>> poisoned
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> this poison and then they have lowest values for their homes in the
>>>>>>> US..all
>>>>>>> is this for energy companies. and days of consistent pollution that
>>>>>>> never reaches good levels.
>>>> Murderers!
>>>>>>> Media likes to ignore what is hurting people as long as they can
>>>>>>> profit
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> victim and viewer and readers  expense. Al Gores book says media
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> care, and even actress
>>>>>>> Anjolie
>>>>>>> says,,, media makes things like her too important and ignores
>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>> things..
>>>>>>> the news  doesn't worry about concerns from people. Yates economic
>>>>>>> professor , new book describes peoples pain from pollution that
>>>>>>> society
>>>>>>> ignores in metropolitan cities inUS. and stifles economy .
>>>>>>> doctors say they don't know what other factors cause asthma? Perhaps
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> don't want to know cause then you might not need their care or
>>>>>>> concern
>>>>>>> or cancer centers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>> where and why  they don't tell or care about harm from pollution?
>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>> amazing
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> know the readings and scientific names of disease but dont' do any
>>>>>>>>> studies
>>>>>>>>> to show cause and effect to perhaps the most important thing in
>>>>>>>>> life
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> many people affected-------. its like they don't exist or don't
>>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>> one iota
>>>>>>>>> about human life... this is what people think control means in the
>>>>>>>>> US
>>>>>>>>> lies and manipulations and now MURDER
>>>>>>>>>>> what has this country become? I hope someone gets to read this..
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> news
>>>>>>>>>>> stations have coopted to most wealthy  and take overs and don't
>>>>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>>>> about what is important  or who is affected or why and 
>>>>>>>>>>> increbibly
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> often rather advertise to those who are affected to capitalize
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> profit
>>>>>>>>>>> from their own viewers or readers  pain..The biggest companies
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> doctors get to tell you
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> causes what and to ignore everything else.  but doesn't tell the
>>>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>>>> why people need what they
>>>>>>>>>>> are targeting meds and  advertisments for clinics nonstop to  ,
>>>>>>>>>>> and what I thought would be
>>>>>>>>>>> perceived in fairness and objectivity is ignored like affects
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> pollution. Maybe because they don't want to pay for helping
>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> out of harms way and there is no medication to treat it. Once
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> damaged little to do.. My pain and pleas for
>>>>>>>>>>> help go unanswered. The world as I see it is extremely scary and
>>>>>>>>>>> different then how I perceived it growing up 50 years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Pm.2.5 reading so far, 122 and guess what our weather
>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>>>>>> this ? beautiful.!!!!  I wonder if I perceive this as choking
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>>>>>> a solitary experience, caused  from the 12 years i smoked ,
>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>> cancer and don't know it yet,  or its the additional added co2
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> air or added car exhaust and diesel exhaust
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> more cars and buses but whatever reason its real and it
>>>>>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond affecting me and thats just one of the points I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> make.. There is no suffering  without particulate pollution
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> reaches mild or worse.  Just when this pollution they wrongly
>>>>>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>>>>> reaches that point, the trees go down, the older people stopped
>>>>>>>>>>>> running,
>>>>>>>>>>>> my asthma is automatic, and tens of companies and lung centers
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>> use to advertise now know harm and start  advertising enmass
>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>>> the news companies that take their ads,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> politicians totally ignore the reasons they need to advertise 
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> people pleas for help. The poisoning and tens of thousands of
>>>>>>>>>>>> people who need asthma meds and services the pharmacies
>>>>>>>>>>>> advertise
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>> coincidence or knows affects from environmental toxins that are
>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed or is it just my experience?  This poisoning is allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> exist in some metros without a concern in the world who is
>>>>>>>>>>>> choking ( mostly ne and coal affects combined with high
>>>>>>>>>>>> temperatures , light winds and car exhausts and co2)
>>>>>>>>>>>> or what to do about it.. Even doctors ignore it. Idon't , Al
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gore
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't,
>>>>>>>>>>>> ,people like economic professor Yates new book don'
>>>>>>>> t ignoe it.  so is the Is this just a coincidence and personal
>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> a conspiracy to not do anything for most people affected the most?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck maybe they replaced the ability to care about harm with
>>>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>>>> porn.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything is possible when your choking in your own country or
>>>>>>>>>>>> city
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> no one cares to stop it.
>>>>   To  all who have good air consider yourself
>>>>>>>>>>>> lucky, if you don't know how
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>> air compares, find out ! If you get many days that  EPA calls
>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>>>>> Particulate pollution or worse,
>>>>>>>>>>>> worse, I bet everything i own you will have more chances of
>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>>> different illnesses faster then those who don't. or eventually
>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>> but are too young to perceive the consequences yet.. TEll 
>>>>>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>>>>>> who don't have access to newsgroups PleASE. What I have
>>>>>>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> almost undescribable with a news media and health departments
>>>>>>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> buying into 10k walks for cancer clinics  and spending your
>>>>>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>>>>>>> clinics, after your sick,, and to promote giving  to Cancer
>>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals to  buy more space while making you pay after they
>>>>>>>>>>>> poison
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't tell you how.you got or warn you why you got it. There is
>>>>>>>>>>>> virtually no
>>>>>>>>>>>> protection from this for many many people set up, take their
>>>>>>>>>>>> health and make them pay for lost of health. This is forced on
>>>>>>>>>>>> people and over time
>>>>>>>>>>>> causes
>>>>>>>>>>>> harm
>>>>>>>>>>>> ... much harm is my added assumption . Whats worse is I believe
>>>>>>>>>>>> the severity of these illnesses are much worse and they are
>>>>>>>>>>>> irreversible
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> you can't stop it  like from deciding to quit  smoking or
>>>>>>>>>>>> eatting
>>>>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>>>> . I write this
>>>>>>>>>>>> because I care about people unlike some in power ( is it
>>>>>>>>>>>> religion,
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> causes the idea its ok to harm your own people now?) .This
>>>>>>>>>>>> pollution invades your space in many areas of the country
>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> wind
>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution or lack of and because of close promixmiticy of
>>>>>>>>>>>> engine
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> diesel and industry exhaust and coal dust from producers as far
>>>>>>>>>>>> away
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>> state . and from politicians who decide who should be exposed 
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed, while most affected are ignored. The continued
>>>>>>>>>>>> poisoning
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> millions of people for status quo, rich profits and energy 
>>>>>>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> expense of your lost health  Everything
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have seen and know in life says what I just said is true. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> People
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed to this in neighborhoods with cities with good air but
>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>> concentrated in high traffic or near mall or fast food with
>>>>>>>>>>>> idling
>>>>>>>>>>>> engines or polluted streets and its likely if you are, you will
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> affected too . Do they go over the risks? No because they don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>>>>> scare
>>>>>>>>>>>> you and they want to keep jobs going by treating people after
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> poisoned. and they don't want to lose control of profits.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> think of another reason they allow such poisons to
>>>>>>>>>>>> exist.. I ask for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>> ,If anyone wanted to show proof more then the
>>>>>>>>>>>> dozens of links I have found on the net, many of the links
>>>>>>>>>>>> stopped working, I think I can and other
>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>> they wanted to.... Look up particulate polltion and your 
>>>>>>>>>>>> health.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> can name ten ways to compare the health of people exposed to
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> compared
>>>>>>>>>>>> to those in good air,,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I assure, you more then I know about life itself people are
>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>> harmed
>>>>>>>>>>>> greatly in the name of energy and there doesn't seem like
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>> about it unless people move or get your politicians to care.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>> you at the pharamacy.or hospital, if your family member or
>>>>>>>>>>>> friend
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> affected. ,. Please the media wants you to worry
>>>>>>>>>>>> about 10k walks for cancer but not who get its and why.more and
>>>>>>>>>>>> where!!!!... Many
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> people who get cancer do so by not having health agencies warn
>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> prolonged exposure to this pollution so help me god. There will
>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> cure for something that wears down your lungs and every organ 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>> body
>>>>>>>>>>>> from pollution NEVER don't buy hype to build hospitals , and
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>>>>>> till they tell you why you need them more and in certain
>>>>>>>>>>>> location.
>>>>>>>>>>>> and affects from pollution consistently over time.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> uncovered the biggest conspiracy in the US .The politicians
>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore the urgency, they don't write me back, the studies are
>>>>>>>>>>>> mysteriously not made, the concern is for commercial after
>>>>>>>>>>>> commercial for health care, and I feel like I am in a holocust
>>>>>>>>>>>> set up and spit out by a careless society of ghouls.. and
>>>>>>>>>>>> politicians.and news media capitalizing on your not knowing the
>>>>>>>>>>>> true facts.
>>>>>>>>>>> If your in my area,,,,expect no team in your area to win any
>>>>>>>>>>> championships.( at least who are aerobically conditioned and
>>>>>>>>>>> lived
>>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>> for at least four years)  but this is true in any city that gets
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> much particulate pollution ,not just mine
>>>>>>>>>>>> Even though there are  5 million population and thousands of
>>>>>>>>>>>> teams...
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the most part , few team have  won anything for years)see
>>>>>>>>>>>> people unhappy ( most depression in the US in my region too! Am
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> making this up? NO! I have the links!. see people paying more
>>>>>>>>>>>> money for this energy only
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>> have to pay for healthcare after they are poisoned . See the
>>>>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>>>>>>> of people graduating college or high school . see the most
>>>>>>>>>>>> asthma,
>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> most respirtory deaths and most prescriptions see, the most 
>>>>>>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate particulate pollution..and your not told!!!!!!.see
>>>>>>>>>>>> higher morbidity and
>>>>>>>>>>>> cancer...see the most violence in almost any city in the world,
>>>>>>>>>>>> See
>>>>>>>>>>>> what happens when people dont have jobs or don't graduate and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>> one cares to give them any good air to do better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  In case you don't believe, there
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> ways to compare
>>>>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>>>>> stat, like morbidity by age, cancers by age and sex, hospital
>>>>>>>>>>>> admission
>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>> year and sex, 10k results with people who lived here for over 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>>>>>>>>> years, , stress tests, compare the number of productive years
>>>>>>>>>>>> people over a
>>>>>>>>>>>> certain
>>>>>>>>>>>> age gets by age between two contrasting places with polluted 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> non polluted air.. compare everything.. For comparisons I made,
>>>>>>>>>>>> ( I
>>>>>>>>>>>> did that and was astounded with results),
>>>>>>>>>>>> comparing health of people near idling cars living near 
>>>>>>>>>>>> shopping
>>>>>>>>>>>> centers
>>>>>>>>>>>> and on crowded streets  and in polluted cities to clean
>>>>>>>>>>>> air places and all in all , you can lose up to 16 years of life
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>> health. . I know people who are 86 but never had any good 
>>>>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>> 60.
>>>>>>>>>>>> choose to   get you or your family out of harms way  and
>>>>>>>>>>>> pressure
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>> politicians, I expect some don't care one iota . Why did the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pres
>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> rule you can't sue these people. Why can't I sue if this is
>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> causes my disability?
>>>>>>>>>>>> right now our particulate pollution has shut down my system to
>>>>>>>>>>>> breathe
>>>>>>>>>>>> easily and not one person cares about me for doing what? 
>>>>>>>>>>>> selling
>>>>>>>>>>>> drugs,
>>>>>>>>>>>> hurting people?   NOT   for just wanting to exist without
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> allow poisonous levels of air into our region! I knew I was in
>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble when they use the word greenhous gas instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>> pollution..A general concern for sure but it often mask the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>> immediate affects that are happening now, to some more then
>>>>>>>>>>>> others!
>>>>>>>>>>>> gasping for breath and one reason ONLY:  the pollution levels
>>>>>>>>>>>> reach
>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate or
>>>>>>>>>>>> worse every time.., get me out of it and
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can breathe., Its imposed torture and please believe cause it
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> affect
>>>>>>>>>>>> you the same way it won't  affect you in other ways eventually.
>>>>>>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>>>>>> tests
>>>>>>>>>>>> say it does, tens of thousands have lost their life thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> got disease for variable reasons like fate... NO its murder and
>>>>>>>>>>>> poison that is allowed to invade your body and no one care.. A
>>>>>>>>>>>> conspiracy to kill and have companies come in to advertise meds
>>>>>>>>>>>> and hospitals all day and no media to tell you why. What a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> fking
>>>>>>>>>>>> sick society. Politiicans don't care. I am surprised the links
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> ill health I have seen but its still underreported and I know
>>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>>> worse for the people who live in it and will never ever get
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> health back... no one
>>>>>>>>>>>> escapes the damages if comparisons are met and people were able
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> compare the exact state of health. Epa constantly warns people
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> this air not to exeercise if sensitive. BS, do they warn them,
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>>> die
>>>>>>>>>>>> or have this pollution lodge in their system to cause heart
>>>>>>>>>>>> disease
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> respiratory disease? Do they warn about consistent exposure to
>>>>>>>>>>>> this pollution. ? How many want to see the accumulated soot 
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> my air filter after only one month? More question.  If 
>>>>>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>>>>>> is happening  so how much, how many years are you likely
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> see damage from getting it ? Who gets that the most?   Why no
>>>>>>>>>>>> follow up? why not
>>>>>>>>>>>> stop it instead at that point
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> does damage? Why call it moderate when you have to warn the
>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitve to stay inside and it automatically makes my lungs
>>>>>>>>>>>> constrict and causes more illness when comparisons are made?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why
>>>>>>>>>>>> bring out a chart claiming clean air without
>>>>>>>>>>>> telling
>>>>>>>>>>>> people only if your in certain environments!.Why twist the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> facts
>>>>>>>>>>>> and ignore the areas most affected. ?  My life is basically
>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>> how to get out of harms way without losing everything i own and
>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> street. There is no intent to work cause the air don't make
>>>>>>>>>>>> concentration
>>>>>>>>>>>> too worthy after long time and makes sleep difficult .. I just
>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>> to vent
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> explain how people are
>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed to get poisoned, and tens of pharmacies and lung 
>>>>>>>>>>>> centers
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> place and  there to advertise
>>>>>>>>>>>> in my polluted areas, and a new media never warns or tells its
>>>>>>>>>>>> citizens
>>>>>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>>>>>> they need so many meds and hospitals.to begin with and
>>>>>>>>>>>> politicians
>>>>>>>>>>>> unable to care to stop it or the consequences. I am now living
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>>>>> concentration camp. Akin to paid poisoning where you
>>>>>>>>>>>> lose
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything you own to this poisoning and its   ongoing. What I
>>>>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> real. In
>>>>>>>>>>>> addition I am sure, people sleep less good in this so called
>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>>>>> poisoning, infants cry more ( thats just my assumption from 
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> seen)  and quality of life is worse. I think everything is
>>>>>>>>>>>> compromised
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> people who are exposed to this consistently. Politicians say
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't do practical things to stop it faster. Under the
>>>>>>>>>>>> constitution
>>>>>>>>>>>> people in Ne are not protected from undue harm.. In my area I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> see ten reports on ear and chin rennovation then the horrific
>>>>>>>>>>>> damages
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> constant soot and particulate pollution that invades this area.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally
>>>>>>>>>>>> if you dont' believe that
>>>>>>>>>>>> constant particulate pollution don't kill or sicken I invite
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> objective to test my air filters and then compare that to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>>>>>> 9/11
>>>>>>>>>>>> got.
>>>>>>>>>>>> or damage from smoking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gorgeous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070524/ap_on_re_us/attacks_health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> atlanta number one or two for asthma and poof another yg person
>>>>>>>>>>> dies
>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>> living there for long time. You never hear famous die off the
>>>>>>>>>> coast
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> Cape
>>>>>>>>>> Cod or in clean air in Seattle like this do you? Headline ex
>>>>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>>>>> Ford
>>>>>>>>>> dies at age 51 off the coast of california (clean air) not
>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070501/ts_nm/usa_air_dc_1
>>>>>>>>>> and around six more links where cities on east coast are on top
>>>>>>>>>> ten
>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> ozone or particulates or soot or affects from pollution . Yet 
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> are reducing things? God forbid these people had this poison
>>>>>>>>>> effect
>>>>>>>>>> them..
>>>>>>>>>> they wouldn't be so fast accusing people of complaining for no
>>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>>>>>> Imagine the insensiitivity of politicians and energy whores to
>>>>>>>>>> poison
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>  . This is forced on people and over time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> causes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... much harm is my added assumption . Whats worse is I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the severity of these illnesses are much worse and they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irreversible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can't stop it  like from deciding to not smoke or eatting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please tell everyone you know if this makes any sense. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I care about people unlike some in power ( is it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> causes the idea its ok to harm your own people now?) .This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pollution invades your space in many areas of the country
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution or lack of and because of close promixmiticy of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diesel and industry exhaust and coal dust from producers as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> state . and from politicians who decide who should be exposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed, while most affected are ignored, while alternatives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are not mandated to reduce risks! some places they are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed! the places that need it the most are not even 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tools to get people out of harms way. Akin to murder goes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on and on. The continued
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poisoning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millions of people for status quo, rich profits and energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expense of your lost health sometimes and if your not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fight for those that are. I ask for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ,If anyone wanted to show proof more then the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dozens of links I have found on the net, I think I can and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they wanted to.... Look up particulate polltion and your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can name ten ways to compare the health of people exposed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to those in good air,,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I assure, you more then I know about life itself people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harmed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greatly in the name of energy and there doesn't seem like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it unless people move or get your politicians to care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you at the pharamacy.or hospital, ,. Please the media wants
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 10k walks for cancer but not who get its and why.. Many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who get cancer do so by not having health agencies 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prolonged exposure to this pollution so help me god. There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cure for something that wears down your lungs and every organ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> body
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from pollution NEVER don't buy hype to build hospitals , and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> till they tell you why you need them more and in certain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location.s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uncovered the biggest conspiracy in the US .
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If your in my area,,,,expect no team in your area to win any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> championships.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even though there are  5 million population and thousands of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temas...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most part  have not won anything for years)see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people unhappy. see people paying more money for this energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to pay for healthcare after they are poisoned . See the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of people graduating college or high school . see the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asthma,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most respirtory deaths and most prescriptions see, the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate particulate pollution...see higher morbidity and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancer...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thats
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if your lucky to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get healthcare. In case you don't believe, there are ways to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compare
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stat, like morbidity by age, cancers by age and sex, hospital
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admission by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year and sex, 10k results with people who lived here for over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did that and was astounded with results),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comparing health of people near idling cars living near
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shopping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> centers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and on crowded streets to clean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> air places and all in all , you can lose up to 16 years of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health. I know people who are 86 but never had any good 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 60.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070524/ap_on_re_us/attacks_health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After you read how people die from dust, try to understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thats
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pollution although probably less intense that people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downwind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get for much longer periods of time. People have to demand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is provable must be allowed in court in much the same way 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaged from WTC dust are. just because no one had any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequences before don't mean the damages are not there Why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ceratin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people protected and certain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people not protected. The people with the most asthma and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respiratory deaths are points of reference who need changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more , not ignored
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we are poisoned!!!! murderers!!!!! just because it is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>affecting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you dont' mean its not affecting others.I have been in good
>>>>>>>>>>>>> communites and good air and for the most part its way better 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and politicians  they dont' care
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> iota about truth or consequences... if others suffer in bad 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> air in their own country. We have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coopted by money and media who makes what is important , not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually happening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You would be singing a different tune if you didn't have politicians 
>>>>>>>in
>> bed
>> with oil. We might be iin a much better state of  economy and health if
>> we
>> were independent  of our dependence on oil. if we utilized our brain
>> power
>> and spent money way sooner on developing cleaner energy .our country
>> would
>> be a real super power , now we are losing prestige to the people who have
>> the oil  and wealth and developing new weapons without our ability to
>> stay
>> competitive  We then would not be dependent on something that produces
>> trading defecits and inbalance in imports , and keeps jobs from moving
>> overseas.
>
> Yes, you are right if the environmentalists, using they influence in the
> Democratic party, had not blocked nuclear power the US would be in an
> much better position. And maybe the oil price would have dropped low
> enough that the Islamists Terrorists would not exist in large numbers.
>
> Tim S

 I am not a liberal or conservative. I never protested nuclear energy and
for that reason I should not be held responsible for whatever action was
taken  because of those who did. A whole generation and area of people
should not be held hostage from harm (try getting months of air that don't
reach good levels with no one to care,  or try waiting in line for oxygen
masks at hospitals and no politician to care why)  Because of decision made
before for whatever reason. Right now people are losing their lives and
livlihoods, their families, their health, and its happening for real.. the
point in which this happens is under reported , its not a concern and people
are in a slow holocaust..  and people who care about others need to
intervene.
>

I have learned the power of the press to ignore people pain is real and to 
go after facts is not there. the press has been coopted by profits not 
truth. People don't believe everything they tell you. I see how govt can use 
press for whatever they want to tell you based often on lies. When they can 
kill people at will in the US and press don't care or politicians I know we 
are going down hill as a society. so help me god. ( notice I don't use gods 
name to kill people) 
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