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TEST, and Help with weird Cnews article bounceback problem

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From: Donald Burr
Date: Fri, 29 May 1992 22:33
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First things first.  If anyone actually SEES this article, please reply to
it.  (Note the Reply-To: line above; I would prefer it if you use this
address, it's easier for most people)  This elains why this is crossposted
to the *.test groups (sorry if this isn't all that proper, flame me in email)

Now, for a little background.  Both my UUCP name and Usenet name is "sbanet".
I am connected to a machine whos uucp name is "dschub", they feed me mail and
news, and in turn, accept outgoing mail and news from me.

I am beginning to believe that their news name is different from their UUCP
name.  This is why.  I just received my first news batch from them, but now
htat I check my outgoing UUCP queue, I find that all the stuff I received
FROM them, is going back TO them.  BUT it is still being filed on my machine!

Also what leads me to believe that their setup is not alltogether "kosher"
is this.  Check this out, from the header lines of one of the messages I got
from them, after it was filed locally:

> From sbanet!dscares!uunet!uunet!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!agate!stanford.edu!rock!sas!mozart.unx.sas.com!foster!sherman Thu May 28 22:03:51 PDT 1992
> Article: 4 of comp.unix.admin
> Path: sbanet!dscares!uunet!uunet!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!agate!stanford.edu!rock!sas!mozart.unx.sas.com!foster!sherman
> From: sherman@unx.sas.com (Chris Sherman)
> Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
> Subject: Re: admin-users communication
> Message-ID: <sherman.706951526@foster>
> Date: 27 May 92 07:25:26 GMT
> Article-I.D.: foster.sherman.706951526
> References: <1992May22.003744.11268@nmsu.edu>
> Sender: news@unx.sas.com (Noter of Newsworthy Events)
> Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
> Lines: 74
> Nntp-Posting-Host: foster.unx.sas.com

[...rest of article...]

NOTE THE "dscares".  When I was feeding off a different system (I forgot
its name, but for the sake of argument, let's say it was "foo"), the name
that appears in the "Path:" header was "foo", not some other weird variant.
And "foo" was also that machine's UUCP name.

Now, is there any way for me to fix this situation?  I do NOT want to keep
shipping the same news back to them, because it increases modem time, etc.
I am running Cnews, patched up until Dec 1991.  Is there anything I can hack
around here to fix it?  Note, I still want OUTGOING articles (i.e. the ones
I post here) to go out!  If this will help, here is my /usr/lib/news/sys
file:

--cut here--
# Only the ME line is mandatory; the others are just samples of how to do
# things.  Virtually everything will need modifying for your local feeds
# and newsgroups.

# line indicating what we are willing to receive; note local groups near end
ME:comp,news,sci,rec,misc,soc,talk,ca,alt,to,nixbbs,sba,sbanet,sbcc

# dschub -- batched compressed feed
dschub:comp,news,sci,rec,misc,soc,talk,ca,alt,sba,sbanet,to.dschub/all:f:\
dschub/togo

# borg -- mail only comp.binaries.mac
borg:comp.binaries.mac/all::mail locutus@borg

# autoreply -- not a real system, but pipe all test messages to autoreplier
autoreply:ca.test,alt.test,misc.test,nixbbs.test,sbcc.test,sba.test,\
sbanet.test,gnu.gnusenet.test,gnu.test/all::/usr/local/lib/newsbin/local/echo
--cut here--

Ok, if there's nothing I can do on my end, is there something I can do on
his end (dschub's end) to help alleviate this problem?  First off, is there
anything I can do from a "normal user" (i.e. non superuser) standpoint, to
see what the problem might be?  (I have a guest account at dschub, whose
purpose is to snooop around and see if things are about to fall apart, etc.)
If not, what should I tell dschub's news admin to do?

Many thanks for the help, and PLEASE reply to dburr@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu.


: Donald Burr, System Administrator : dburr@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu   INTERNET :
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From: dburr@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Donald Burr)
Newsgroups: news.software.b,news.sysadmin,news.admin,alt.test,ca.test,misc.test
Subject: TEST, and Help with weird Cnews article bounceback problem
Message-ID: <4870@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>
Date: 29 May 92 22:33:12 GMT
Sender: root@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu
Reply-To: dburr@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu
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