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In la.general Dale Switzer <dale.switzer@bigfoot.com> wrote:
: I agree that the situations are analogous.  However that does not mean
: that the parents of yesterday were wrong.  My parents wished me to not
: identify myself with those who were "smoking more dope".  Since they
: were particularly good parents they were able to transfer this attitude
: to me.  Therefore, despite the peer pressure, I avoided both the life
: style and the dress code of the druggies.

You're parents parented? You mean they didn't let the state do it? What
kind of evil people were they? Why, they should have insisted that the
school system shave everyone's hair closecut, marine style, just to make
sure that you couldn't even tell who the druggies were!

Dale, you're tale only goes on to prove the point that started this. It's
not about school uniforms, it is about parental responsibility. Your
parents took responsibility and made sure that they raised you. They
didn't expect the school system to do it for them. And it appears that you
learned from that model as you state:

: I hope to raise my children in a similar way.  If they choose to
: identify themselves by their clothing, I hope that they will choose an
: identity which I and they will be proud of.

You are taking the responsibility of instilling YOUR values into YOUR
kids. That's great. What if your kids want to dress for success, but have
been limitted to wearing some dress code that ensures that they don't
overpower other kids with their power ties and power clothes. That they
mold to fit some predetermined "mean". Some average from which they are
not allowed a standard deviation.

Uniforms have yet to be proven to "raise the educational levels". The only
things studies have shown is that there is less random violence in schools
that have gang problems and institute a uniform policy, and there has also
been a slight lowering of truancy (hard to skip school while wearing a
uniform).

Other thn that, there has been no published study that shows that grades
got better, students studdied more or anything else. In 1985 it wasn't
uniforms that took a barrio high school and turned it into the center of
attention as Jamie took kids that were in gangs, and never were thought to
have any ability and showed them that everyone was wrong, as they passed
the AP exams for calculas. Uniforms didn't make them smarter... a teacher
who believed in them made them willing to fail, and in that they succeeded
beyond anyones wildest imagination.

Garfield didn't have uniforms, but in 1990 they had more students take and
pass the Calc AP exam than Beverly Hills. [might have been 1991...]

Teachers... Parents... Students... that's where the difference is amde...
not in some arbituary dress code that puts kids in uniforms.