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13 total messages Started by Springbok Sun, 07 Jan 2001 16:19
68k and programming ?
#2964
Author: Springbok
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 16:19
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Can anybody help me ?
I want to start programming on my quadra (68040)
What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ?
All preferred in Dutch ...

springbok

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Re: 68k and programming ?
#2965
Author: Stefan Arentz
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 16:31
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springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com (Springbok) writes:

> Can anybody help me ?
> I want to start programming on my quadra (68040)
> What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ?
> All preferred in Dutch ...

Die quadra is al vrij oud en traag vergeleken met de huidige
hardware, dus daar moet je je ontwikkeltools op afstemmen denk
ik.

Maar belangrijker is, wat wil je doen. Je kan in basic, pascal
C, C++, Perl of Scheme (om er maar eens een paar te noemen)
programmeren op je Quadra.

Vertel ons wat je wil maken of leren en dan komen er wel wat
antwoorden waar je echt wat aan hebt :-)

  Stefan
Re: 68k and programming ?
#2966
Author: Floris van Sandwijk
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 09:43
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De enige programmeertaal die in het Nederlands verkrijgbaar is voor de
Macintosh is REALbasic. Werkt op een Mac met MacOS 7.6 en hoger
(waarschijnlijk al vanaf 7.1 maar dat is niet officieel).

Floris

In article <springbok-0701011719550001@adsl-5704.turboline.skynet.be>,
springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com (Springbok) wrote:

> Can anybody help me ?
> I want to start programming on my quadra (68040)
> What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ?
> All preferred in Dutch ...
> 
> springbok
> 
> -- 
> http://www.infocasino.be
Re: 68k and programming ?
#2967
Author: Jean-Pierre Bollen
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:07
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Springbok <springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com> wrote:

> Can anybody help me ?
> I want to start programming on my quadra (68040)
> What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ?
> All preferred in Dutch ...
> 
> springbok

Ik heb nog wat oud spul liggen waar ik toch niets meer mee doe.
Onder andere:
Pascal for Macintosh
Inside Macintosh boeken
oude "Developers" (Apple tijdschrift)
oude Developer CD's

alles zo'n beetje uit de periode 1989/1993

Mocht je interesse hebben, dan wil ik wel een serieusere inventarisatie
maken (zit in dozen op zolder).

Als iemand anders er interesse in heeft, school of museum of zo :-) ,
laat het maar even weten.

Kosten?? ...  voor nop als het voor een goed doel is (stort maar wat op
de rekening van Greenpeace of Amnesty). Probleem is alleen hoe krijg je
het zo snel mogelijk thuis, het spul ligt nu in Frankrijk en ik kom pas
op z'n vroegst tegen April/Mei weer naar Nederland.

Jean-Pierre
Re: 68k and programming ?
#2968
Author: moore
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:35
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in article springbok-0701011719550001@adsl-5704.turboline.skynet.be,
Springbok at springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com wrote on 1.7.01 11.19 am:

> Can anybody help me ?
> I want to start programming on my quadra (68040)
> What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ?
> All preferred in Dutch ...
> 
> springbok

That all depends on what you want to program. Whatever you do, though, DON'T
BUY CODEWARRIOR!
Re: 68k and programming ?
#2969
Author: Koen van der Drift
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:41
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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, moore wrote:

> That all depends on what you want to program. Whatever you do, though, DON'T
> BUY CODEWARRIOR!
> 

why not?


- Koen.
Re: 68k and programming ?
#2970
Author: Peter Likidis
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 23:22
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Springbok wrote:
> 
> Can anybody help me ?
> I want to start programming on my quadra (68040)
> What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ?

I can't help you with the dutch. But I am sure you can buy plenty of
good books.

As for what language it really depends on what you want to achieve. You
might find that a few of the new Visual languages may be too large a
program to go on your comp. 

What I suggest to people who are wanting to learn to program and have no
experience in it is to learn Pascal first. Pascal is a fairly useless
languge but it is a great learning language. 

After that if you want to move into the visual packages you can jump
into  delphi which is visual Pascal anyhow. Otherwise jump into C then
C++ (and maybe PHP for Web development). You can buy many many good
books on programming. Visit your local book store.
Re: 68k and programming ?
#2971
Author: Springbok
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 02:43
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Zeer zeker ge�nteresseerd ...
April mei is uitstekend ...

groeten

chris

In article <1emwwtp.1eaxz0bs0746N%bollen@wanadoo.fr>, bollen@wanadoo.fr
(Jean-Pierre Bollen) wrote:

> Springbok <springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com> wrote:
> 
> > Can anybody help me ?
> > I want to start programming on my quadra (68040)
> > What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ?
> > All preferred in Dutch ...
> > 
> > springbok
> 
> Ik heb nog wat oud spul liggen waar ik toch niets meer mee doe.
> Onder andere:
> Pascal for Macintosh
> Inside Macintosh boeken
> oude "Developers" (Apple tijdschrift)
> oude Developer CD's
> 
> alles zo'n beetje uit de periode 1989/1993
> 
> Mocht je interesse hebben, dan wil ik wel een serieusere inventarisatie
> maken (zit in dozen op zolder).
> 
> Als iemand anders er interesse in heeft, school of museum of zo :-) ,
> laat het maar even weten.
> 
> Kosten?? ...  voor nop als het voor een goed doel is (stort maar wat op
> de rekening van Greenpeace of Amnesty). Probleem is alleen hoe krijg je
> het zo snel mogelijk thuis, het spul ligt nu in Frankrijk en ik kom pas
> op z'n vroegst tegen April/Mei weer naar Nederland.
> 
> Jean-Pierre

-- 
http://www.infocasino.be
Re: 68k and programming ?
#2972
Author: Springbok
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 02:48
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In article <springbok-0701011719550001@adsl-5704.turboline.skynet.be>,
springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com (Springbok) wrote:

> Can anybody help me ?
> I want to start programming on my quadra (68040)
> What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ?
> All preferred in Dutch ...
> 
> springbok

Eigenlijk zou ik een programma moeten maken dat muziek kan afspelen van CD
of van harde schijf, dat kan inloggen op een remote server en daar
bestanden kan downloaden, waarmee je kunt instellen hoeveel songs te
spelen, hoe laat, in welke volgorde, automatisch aan elkaar gemixt etc ...

hmmm, lijkt me nogal gecompliceerd maar misschien bestaat zoiets al ... ?

-- 
http://www.infocasino.be
Re: 68k and programming ?
#2950
Author: Anonymous
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 09:57
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REALBasic is very appropriate for that kind of applications. Visit
http://www.realbasic.com/ for more information.
And please, keep this newsgroup english.

> Van: springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com (Springbok)
> Organisatie: Springbok Safari Resort
> Nieuwsgroepen: 
> 
nl.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.sys.mainboard.macintosh,alt.hackintosh,be.comp.sys.
ma> c
> Datum: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 03:48:40 +0100
> Onderwerp: Re: 68k and programming ?
> 
> In article <springbok-0701011719550001@adsl-5704.turboline.skynet.be>,
> springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com (Springbok) wrote:
> 
>> Can anybody help me ?
>> I want to start programming on my quadra (68040)
>> What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ?
>> All preferred in Dutch ...
>> 
>> springbok
> 
> Eigenlijk zou ik een programma moeten maken dat muziek kan afspelen van CD
> of van harde schijf, dat kan inloggen op een remote server en daar
> bestanden kan downloaden, waarmee je kunt instellen hoeveel songs te
> spelen, hoe laat, in welke volgorde, automatisch aan elkaar gemixt etc ...
> 
> hmmm, lijkt me nogal gecompliceerd maar misschien bestaat zoiets al ... ?
> 
> -- 
> http://www.infocasino.be
Nieuws van Steve
#2951
Author: Peter Bonte
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 19:41
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http://www.macosrumors.com/
Hier is redelijk wat te vinden.


*    The Quicktime stream of the keynote is pushing 3GB/sec-plus!
*    More than 100,000 copies of Mac OS X Public Beta have been sold.
*    Steve reviews the common gribes about the Beta, mentions that most of
the key missing features in the Beta are now present in in-house builds....
Location Manager, Airport, and many others.
*    The Apple Menu is back, consolidating many common system functions
(Sleep, Shut Down, Log Out, etc.) which were previously only available in
the Finder's application menu. Recent items are also back.
*    The Dock has been dramatically enhanced: new features include in-dock
QuickTime movie play, listing of items in docked Finder items (disks,
folders -- this may later be enhanced to include archives like .sits!) by
holding the mouse down over them, and many others.
*    The Finder has been tweaked to be more OS9-like; when the default file
browser is closed, windows will independently spawn just as in the classic
Mac OS. 
*    The File Browser has been streamlined to take up less screen real
estate and further improve simplicity. Expect lots of sneak-peeks on the
Apple Web site soon....
*    The new PowerMac G4 has been unveiled -- and yes, they made it to
733MHz! Default configurations are single-processor and start at 466MHz.
High-end models can be made Build-To-Order with dual processors! (Mmmm,
1466MHz...) 
*    At long last, the PowerMac will now have five slots!
*    The new systems will come with the long-rumored Pioneer CD/DVD
drive/burner that will be able to create consumer-playable DVDs! These
machines are going to sell like hotcakes.
*    The new PowerMacs will start at $1699. The 733MHz Best model will be
$3499. 
*    As predicted, the new PowerMacs have a 133MHz bus, 4X AGP, a new audio
system, and high-end models will include an nVidia GeForce 2MX graphics
accelerator! 
*    Steve warns, however, that the 733MHz model will be in very short
supply, so get your order in soon....
*    A Pentium 4 1.5GHz is soundly trounced by the single-processor 733MHz
model in the usual Photoshop race -- Steve equates it with a 2GHz P4, which
of course doesn't exist yet.
*    Expect to hear the line "Power to Burn" a lot in the near future.
*    OS X will be released on March 24 for $129, and will be bundled with
new Macs by July -- Macworld New York in July will be a celebration of the
new Mac OS. 
*    The 15-inch flat panel display is now $799, down $200.
*    As expected, Apple is announcing a new audio application, including a
powerful new CD burning application that is much easier to use than many
common competitors and will be able to burn a track a time, rather than the
one-shot limitation that many burning apps are stuck with. The new app is
called iTunes and it also plays CD and MP3 audio. Steve demonstrated a very
impressive visualizer (component which interprets sound wave data into
fractals and other mesmerizing visuals) included in iTunes -- the crowd went
wild! 
*    iTunes is available for immediate download from Apple.com, runs on OS9
*    iDVD is the new DVD application, can encode the MPEG-2 video for
burning to DVD in only 2X the length of the movie on G4s using the power of
the Velocity engine -- compared to around 25X for other encoders!
*    And the moment we've all been waiting for -- the new Powerbook G4. It's
one inch thick in a beautiful titanium enclosure, sports up to a 500MHz G4,
has a 15.2-inch screen, weighs 5.3 pounds, employs RAGE 128 Mobility
graphics, and offers up to five hours of battery life! Firewire, Airport, up
to 1GB of RAM, available at the end of the month....
*    Steve compares the PBG4 to the Sony Vaio -- the Vaio subnotebook is $50
more, isn't as thin as the G4, isn't as fast, doesn't have CD/DVD, and has
no wireless LAN options.
*    Steve is wrapping up now (1:45 EST) and seems to targeting the people
(particularly investors) who are worried about Apple's business
future....exuding a lot of confidence that the issues are being dealt with
and that everything is on track. 
Re: Nieuws van Steve
#2952
Author: Underground
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:32
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Klopt. Nog twee opmerkingen :
- OS 9.1 is te downloaden
- iTunes en bovenstaande OS 9.1 lukt voorlopig niet (asu server down, 
wegens overbelasting :)

voila

In article <B68127F7.11C08%peter.bonte2@advalvas.be>, Peter Bonte 
<peter.bonte2@advalvas.be> wrote:

> http://www.macosrumors.com/
> Hier is redelijk wat te vinden.
> 
> 
> *    The Quicktime stream of the keynote is pushing 3GB/sec-plus!
> *    More than 100,000 copies of Mac OS X Public Beta have been sold.
> *    Steve reviews the common gribes about the Beta, mentions that most 
> of
> the key missing features in the Beta are now present in in-house 
> builds....
> Location Manager, Airport, and many others.
> *    The Apple Menu is back, consolidating many common system functions
> (Sleep, Shut Down, Log Out, etc.) which were previously only available in
> the Finder's application menu. Recent items are also back.
> *    The Dock has been dramatically enhanced: new features include 
> in-dock
> QuickTime movie play, listing of items in docked Finder items (disks,
> folders -- this may later be enhanced to include archives like .sits!) by
> holding the mouse down over them, and many others.
> *    The Finder has been tweaked to be more OS9-like; when the default 
> file
> browser is closed, windows will independently spawn just as in the 
> classic
> Mac OS. 
> *    The File Browser has been streamlined to take up less screen real
> estate and further improve simplicity. Expect lots of sneak-peeks on the
> Apple Web site soon....
> *    The new PowerMac G4 has been unveiled -- and yes, they made it to
> 733MHz! Default configurations are single-processor and start at 466MHz.
> High-end models can be made Build-To-Order with dual processors! (Mmmm,
> 1466MHz...) 
> *    At long last, the PowerMac will now have five slots!
> *    The new systems will come with the long-rumored Pioneer CD/DVD
> drive/burner that will be able to create consumer-playable DVDs! These
> machines are going to sell like hotcakes.
> *    The new PowerMacs will start at $1699. The 733MHz Best model will be
> $3499. 
> *    As predicted, the new PowerMacs have a 133MHz bus, 4X AGP, a new 
> audio
> system, and high-end models will include an nVidia GeForce 2MX graphics
> accelerator! 
> *    Steve warns, however, that the 733MHz model will be in very short
> supply, so get your order in soon....
> *    A Pentium 4 1.5GHz is soundly trounced by the single-processor 
> 733MHz
> model in the usual Photoshop race -- Steve equates it with a 2GHz P4, 
> which
> of course doesn't exist yet.
> *    Expect to hear the line "Power to Burn" a lot in the near future.
> *    OS X will be released on March 24 for $129, and will be bundled with
> new Macs by July -- Macworld New York in July will be a celebration of 
> the
> new Mac OS. 
> *    The 15-inch flat panel display is now $799, down $200.
> *    As expected, Apple is announcing a new audio application, including 
> a
> powerful new CD burning application that is much easier to use than many
> common competitors and will be able to burn a track a time, rather than 
> the
> one-shot limitation that many burning apps are stuck with. The new app is
> called iTunes and it also plays CD and MP3 audio. Steve demonstrated a 
> very
> impressive visualizer (component which interprets sound wave data into
> fractals and other mesmerizing visuals) included in iTunes -- the crowd 
> went
> wild! 
> *    iTunes is available for immediate download from Apple.com, runs on 
> OS9
> *    iDVD is the new DVD application, can encode the MPEG-2 video for
> burning to DVD in only 2X the length of the movie on G4s using the power 
> of
> the Velocity engine -- compared to around 25X for other encoders!
> *    And the moment we've all been waiting for -- the new Powerbook G4. 
> It's
> one inch thick in a beautiful titanium enclosure, sports up to a 500MHz 
> G4,
> has a 15.2-inch screen, weighs 5.3 pounds, employs RAGE 128 Mobility
> graphics, and offers up to five hours of battery life! Firewire, Airport, 
> up
> to 1GB of RAM, available at the end of the month....
> *    Steve compares the PBG4 to the Sony Vaio -- the Vaio subnotebook is 
> $50
> more, isn't as thin as the G4, isn't as fast, doesn't have CD/DVD, and 
> has
> no wireless LAN options.
> *    Steve is wrapping up now (1:45 EST) and seems to targeting the 
> people
> (particularly investors) who are worried about Apple's business
> future....exuding a lot of confidence that the issues are being dealt 
> with
> and that everything is on track. 
>
Re: Nieuws van Steve
#2953
Author: Sjoerd
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:01
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op 10-01-2001 01:32 schreef Underground@neverland.org:

> Klopt. Nog twee opmerkingen :
> - OS 9.1 is te downloaden
> - iTunes en bovenstaande OS 9.1 lukt voorlopig niet (asu server down,
> wegens overbelasting :)
> 
> voila

als toevoeging op het bovenstaande, mocht je bij Apple een idisk hebben dan
haal je 'm daar af, daar hebben ze 'm nl. voor je opgezet.

Sjoerd
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