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Started by Springbok
Sun, 07 Jan 2001 16:19
68k and programming ?
Author: Springbok
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 16:19
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 16:19
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Can anybody help me ? I want to start programming on my quadra (68040) What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ? All preferred in Dutch ... springbok -- http://www.infocasino.be
Re: 68k and programming ?
Author: Stefan Arentz
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 16:31
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 16:31
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springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com (Springbok) writes: > Can anybody help me ? > I want to start programming on my quadra (68040) > What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ? > All preferred in Dutch ... Die quadra is al vrij oud en traag vergeleken met de huidige hardware, dus daar moet je je ontwikkeltools op afstemmen denk ik. Maar belangrijker is, wat wil je doen. Je kan in basic, pascal C, C++, Perl of Scheme (om er maar eens een paar te noemen) programmeren op je Quadra. Vertel ons wat je wil maken of leren en dan komen er wel wat antwoorden waar je echt wat aan hebt :-) Stefan
Re: 68k and programming ?
Author: Floris van Sandwijk
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 09:43
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 09:43
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De enige programmeertaal die in het Nederlands verkrijgbaar is voor de Macintosh is REALbasic. Werkt op een Mac met MacOS 7.6 en hoger (waarschijnlijk al vanaf 7.1 maar dat is niet officieel). Floris In article <springbok-0701011719550001@adsl-5704.turboline.skynet.be>, springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com (Springbok) wrote: > Can anybody help me ? > I want to start programming on my quadra (68040) > What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ? > All preferred in Dutch ... > > springbok > > -- > http://www.infocasino.be
Re: 68k and programming ?
Author: Jean-Pierre Bollen
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:07
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:07
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Springbok <springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com> wrote: > Can anybody help me ? > I want to start programming on my quadra (68040) > What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ? > All preferred in Dutch ... > > springbok Ik heb nog wat oud spul liggen waar ik toch niets meer mee doe. Onder andere: Pascal for Macintosh Inside Macintosh boeken oude "Developers" (Apple tijdschrift) oude Developer CD's alles zo'n beetje uit de periode 1989/1993 Mocht je interesse hebben, dan wil ik wel een serieusere inventarisatie maken (zit in dozen op zolder). Als iemand anders er interesse in heeft, school of museum of zo :-) , laat het maar even weten. Kosten?? ... voor nop als het voor een goed doel is (stort maar wat op de rekening van Greenpeace of Amnesty). Probleem is alleen hoe krijg je het zo snel mogelijk thuis, het spul ligt nu in Frankrijk en ik kom pas op z'n vroegst tegen April/Mei weer naar Nederland. Jean-Pierre
Re: 68k and programming ?
Author: moore
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:35
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:35
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in article springbok-0701011719550001@adsl-5704.turboline.skynet.be, Springbok at springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com wrote on 1.7.01 11.19 am: > Can anybody help me ? > I want to start programming on my quadra (68040) > What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ? > All preferred in Dutch ... > > springbok That all depends on what you want to program. Whatever you do, though, DON'T BUY CODEWARRIOR!
Re: 68k and programming ?
Author: Koen van der Drift
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:41
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:41
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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, moore wrote: > That all depends on what you want to program. Whatever you do, though, DON'T > BUY CODEWARRIOR! > why not? - Koen.
Re: 68k and programming ?
Author: Peter Likidis
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 23:22
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 23:22
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Springbok wrote: > > Can anybody help me ? > I want to start programming on my quadra (68040) > What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ? I can't help you with the dutch. But I am sure you can buy plenty of good books. As for what language it really depends on what you want to achieve. You might find that a few of the new Visual languages may be too large a program to go on your comp. What I suggest to people who are wanting to learn to program and have no experience in it is to learn Pascal first. Pascal is a fairly useless languge but it is a great learning language. After that if you want to move into the visual packages you can jump into delphi which is visual Pascal anyhow. Otherwise jump into C then C++ (and maybe PHP for Web development). You can buy many many good books on programming. Visit your local book store.
Re: 68k and programming ?
Author: Springbok
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 02:43
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 02:43
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Zeer zeker ge�nteresseerd ... April mei is uitstekend ... groeten chris In article <1emwwtp.1eaxz0bs0746N%bollen@wanadoo.fr>, bollen@wanadoo.fr (Jean-Pierre Bollen) wrote: > Springbok <springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com> wrote: > > > Can anybody help me ? > > I want to start programming on my quadra (68040) > > What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ? > > All preferred in Dutch ... > > > > springbok > > Ik heb nog wat oud spul liggen waar ik toch niets meer mee doe. > Onder andere: > Pascal for Macintosh > Inside Macintosh boeken > oude "Developers" (Apple tijdschrift) > oude Developer CD's > > alles zo'n beetje uit de periode 1989/1993 > > Mocht je interesse hebben, dan wil ik wel een serieusere inventarisatie > maken (zit in dozen op zolder). > > Als iemand anders er interesse in heeft, school of museum of zo :-) , > laat het maar even weten. > > Kosten?? ... voor nop als het voor een goed doel is (stort maar wat op > de rekening van Greenpeace of Amnesty). Probleem is alleen hoe krijg je > het zo snel mogelijk thuis, het spul ligt nu in Frankrijk en ik kom pas > op z'n vroegst tegen April/Mei weer naar Nederland. > > Jean-Pierre -- http://www.infocasino.be
Re: 68k and programming ?
Author: Springbok
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 02:48
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 02:48
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In article <springbok-0701011719550001@adsl-5704.turboline.skynet.be>, springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com (Springbok) wrote: > Can anybody help me ? > I want to start programming on my quadra (68040) > What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ? > All preferred in Dutch ... > > springbok Eigenlijk zou ik een programma moeten maken dat muziek kan afspelen van CD of van harde schijf, dat kan inloggen op een remote server en daar bestanden kan downloaden, waarmee je kunt instellen hoeveel songs te spelen, hoe laat, in welke volgorde, automatisch aan elkaar gemixt etc ... hmmm, lijkt me nogal gecompliceerd maar misschien bestaat zoiets al ... ? -- http://www.infocasino.be
Re: 68k and programming ?
Author: Anonymous
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 09:57
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 09:57
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REALBasic is very appropriate for that kind of applications. Visit http://www.realbasic.com/ for more information. And please, keep this newsgroup english. > Van: springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com (Springbok) > Organisatie: Springbok Safari Resort > Nieuwsgroepen: > nl.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.sys.mainboard.macintosh,alt.hackintosh,be.comp.sys. ma> c > Datum: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 03:48:40 +0100 > Onderwerp: Re: 68k and programming ? > > In article <springbok-0701011719550001@adsl-5704.turboline.skynet.be>, > springbok@nospamgekko.8m.com (Springbok) wrote: > >> Can anybody help me ? >> I want to start programming on my quadra (68040) >> What language ? What programs do I use ? Are there any good tutorials ? >> All preferred in Dutch ... >> >> springbok > > Eigenlijk zou ik een programma moeten maken dat muziek kan afspelen van CD > of van harde schijf, dat kan inloggen op een remote server en daar > bestanden kan downloaden, waarmee je kunt instellen hoeveel songs te > spelen, hoe laat, in welke volgorde, automatisch aan elkaar gemixt etc ... > > hmmm, lijkt me nogal gecompliceerd maar misschien bestaat zoiets al ... ? > > -- > http://www.infocasino.be
Nieuws van Steve
Author: Peter Bonte
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 19:41
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 19:41
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http://www.macosrumors.com/ Hier is redelijk wat te vinden. * The Quicktime stream of the keynote is pushing 3GB/sec-plus! * More than 100,000 copies of Mac OS X Public Beta have been sold. * Steve reviews the common gribes about the Beta, mentions that most of the key missing features in the Beta are now present in in-house builds.... Location Manager, Airport, and many others. * The Apple Menu is back, consolidating many common system functions (Sleep, Shut Down, Log Out, etc.) which were previously only available in the Finder's application menu. Recent items are also back. * The Dock has been dramatically enhanced: new features include in-dock QuickTime movie play, listing of items in docked Finder items (disks, folders -- this may later be enhanced to include archives like .sits!) by holding the mouse down over them, and many others. * The Finder has been tweaked to be more OS9-like; when the default file browser is closed, windows will independently spawn just as in the classic Mac OS. * The File Browser has been streamlined to take up less screen real estate and further improve simplicity. Expect lots of sneak-peeks on the Apple Web site soon.... * The new PowerMac G4 has been unveiled -- and yes, they made it to 733MHz! Default configurations are single-processor and start at 466MHz. High-end models can be made Build-To-Order with dual processors! (Mmmm, 1466MHz...) * At long last, the PowerMac will now have five slots! * The new systems will come with the long-rumored Pioneer CD/DVD drive/burner that will be able to create consumer-playable DVDs! These machines are going to sell like hotcakes. * The new PowerMacs will start at $1699. The 733MHz Best model will be $3499. * As predicted, the new PowerMacs have a 133MHz bus, 4X AGP, a new audio system, and high-end models will include an nVidia GeForce 2MX graphics accelerator! * Steve warns, however, that the 733MHz model will be in very short supply, so get your order in soon.... * A Pentium 4 1.5GHz is soundly trounced by the single-processor 733MHz model in the usual Photoshop race -- Steve equates it with a 2GHz P4, which of course doesn't exist yet. * Expect to hear the line "Power to Burn" a lot in the near future. * OS X will be released on March 24 for $129, and will be bundled with new Macs by July -- Macworld New York in July will be a celebration of the new Mac OS. * The 15-inch flat panel display is now $799, down $200. * As expected, Apple is announcing a new audio application, including a powerful new CD burning application that is much easier to use than many common competitors and will be able to burn a track a time, rather than the one-shot limitation that many burning apps are stuck with. The new app is called iTunes and it also plays CD and MP3 audio. Steve demonstrated a very impressive visualizer (component which interprets sound wave data into fractals and other mesmerizing visuals) included in iTunes -- the crowd went wild! * iTunes is available for immediate download from Apple.com, runs on OS9 * iDVD is the new DVD application, can encode the MPEG-2 video for burning to DVD in only 2X the length of the movie on G4s using the power of the Velocity engine -- compared to around 25X for other encoders! * And the moment we've all been waiting for -- the new Powerbook G4. It's one inch thick in a beautiful titanium enclosure, sports up to a 500MHz G4, has a 15.2-inch screen, weighs 5.3 pounds, employs RAGE 128 Mobility graphics, and offers up to five hours of battery life! Firewire, Airport, up to 1GB of RAM, available at the end of the month.... * Steve compares the PBG4 to the Sony Vaio -- the Vaio subnotebook is $50 more, isn't as thin as the G4, isn't as fast, doesn't have CD/DVD, and has no wireless LAN options. * Steve is wrapping up now (1:45 EST) and seems to targeting the people (particularly investors) who are worried about Apple's business future....exuding a lot of confidence that the issues are being dealt with and that everything is on track.
Re: Nieuws van Steve
Author: Underground
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:32
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:32
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Klopt. Nog twee opmerkingen : - OS 9.1 is te downloaden - iTunes en bovenstaande OS 9.1 lukt voorlopig niet (asu server down, wegens overbelasting :) voila In article <B68127F7.11C08%peter.bonte2@advalvas.be>, Peter Bonte <peter.bonte2@advalvas.be> wrote: > http://www.macosrumors.com/ > Hier is redelijk wat te vinden. > > > * The Quicktime stream of the keynote is pushing 3GB/sec-plus! > * More than 100,000 copies of Mac OS X Public Beta have been sold. > * Steve reviews the common gribes about the Beta, mentions that most > of > the key missing features in the Beta are now present in in-house > builds.... > Location Manager, Airport, and many others. > * The Apple Menu is back, consolidating many common system functions > (Sleep, Shut Down, Log Out, etc.) which were previously only available in > the Finder's application menu. Recent items are also back. > * The Dock has been dramatically enhanced: new features include > in-dock > QuickTime movie play, listing of items in docked Finder items (disks, > folders -- this may later be enhanced to include archives like .sits!) by > holding the mouse down over them, and many others. > * The Finder has been tweaked to be more OS9-like; when the default > file > browser is closed, windows will independently spawn just as in the > classic > Mac OS. > * The File Browser has been streamlined to take up less screen real > estate and further improve simplicity. Expect lots of sneak-peeks on the > Apple Web site soon.... > * The new PowerMac G4 has been unveiled -- and yes, they made it to > 733MHz! Default configurations are single-processor and start at 466MHz. > High-end models can be made Build-To-Order with dual processors! (Mmmm, > 1466MHz...) > * At long last, the PowerMac will now have five slots! > * The new systems will come with the long-rumored Pioneer CD/DVD > drive/burner that will be able to create consumer-playable DVDs! These > machines are going to sell like hotcakes. > * The new PowerMacs will start at $1699. The 733MHz Best model will be > $3499. > * As predicted, the new PowerMacs have a 133MHz bus, 4X AGP, a new > audio > system, and high-end models will include an nVidia GeForce 2MX graphics > accelerator! > * Steve warns, however, that the 733MHz model will be in very short > supply, so get your order in soon.... > * A Pentium 4 1.5GHz is soundly trounced by the single-processor > 733MHz > model in the usual Photoshop race -- Steve equates it with a 2GHz P4, > which > of course doesn't exist yet. > * Expect to hear the line "Power to Burn" a lot in the near future. > * OS X will be released on March 24 for $129, and will be bundled with > new Macs by July -- Macworld New York in July will be a celebration of > the > new Mac OS. > * The 15-inch flat panel display is now $799, down $200. > * As expected, Apple is announcing a new audio application, including > a > powerful new CD burning application that is much easier to use than many > common competitors and will be able to burn a track a time, rather than > the > one-shot limitation that many burning apps are stuck with. The new app is > called iTunes and it also plays CD and MP3 audio. Steve demonstrated a > very > impressive visualizer (component which interprets sound wave data into > fractals and other mesmerizing visuals) included in iTunes -- the crowd > went > wild! > * iTunes is available for immediate download from Apple.com, runs on > OS9 > * iDVD is the new DVD application, can encode the MPEG-2 video for > burning to DVD in only 2X the length of the movie on G4s using the power > of > the Velocity engine -- compared to around 25X for other encoders! > * And the moment we've all been waiting for -- the new Powerbook G4. > It's > one inch thick in a beautiful titanium enclosure, sports up to a 500MHz > G4, > has a 15.2-inch screen, weighs 5.3 pounds, employs RAGE 128 Mobility > graphics, and offers up to five hours of battery life! Firewire, Airport, > up > to 1GB of RAM, available at the end of the month.... > * Steve compares the PBG4 to the Sony Vaio -- the Vaio subnotebook is > $50 > more, isn't as thin as the G4, isn't as fast, doesn't have CD/DVD, and > has > no wireless LAN options. > * Steve is wrapping up now (1:45 EST) and seems to targeting the > people > (particularly investors) who are worried about Apple's business > future....exuding a lot of confidence that the issues are being dealt > with > and that everything is on track. >
Re: Nieuws van Steve
Author: Sjoerd
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:01
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:01
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op 10-01-2001 01:32 schreef Underground@neverland.org: > Klopt. Nog twee opmerkingen : > - OS 9.1 is te downloaden > - iTunes en bovenstaande OS 9.1 lukt voorlopig niet (asu server down, > wegens overbelasting :) > > voila als toevoeging op het bovenstaande, mocht je bij Apple een idisk hebben dan haal je 'm daar af, daar hebben ze 'm nl. voor je opgezet. Sjoerd -- - The best things in life are free -
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