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Article #1937Re: About human cloning
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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:39
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:39
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Cloning is banned because women can reproduce with a man through cloning. Fabrikant wrote: > > Savard jsavard@ecn.ab.ca wrote: > > The difference is that we're keeping someone alive who has a > problem, not inflicting a > > problem on someone by deliberately bringing that person into > existence in an unsafe > > manner. > > The difference is only in our imagination. Here is one situation: a > pregnant woman is told that her baby is severely deformed and will die > soon after birth. You continue to support her, if she chooses not to > abort the foetus. This is moral, because it conforms to your > definition of "keeping someone alive who has a problem". Second > situation: you have an embryo in a dish and a woman wants it to be > implanted in her womb, and you can not refuse, because again, it is > the case of "keeping someone alive who has a problem". If you do not > implant an embryo, it will die. Now, the question is: can you or > should you refuse to implant the embryo, if you know that it is > defective? Using your own logic, you can not refuse. > > Now about cloning. There is no doubt, that there is a risk of > creating a severely defective child, but the same risk exists for any > woman over 40, as well as those, who are known to have defective > genes. Would you forbid mentally retarded to procreate? It is almost > sure that their children will be defective. This country has quite a > shameful history of forced sterilizations. > > All medical innovations are inherently risky. The first heart > transplant recipient lived just several days. There is no doubt that > his life was shortened by this transplant, but this procedure paved > the way to many others, and now thousands people are saved every year. > > We allow killing of millions perfectly healthy foetuses every year > (abortion), and if this is moral, why is it immoral to kill a > defective one? It does not really make any moral difference, that the > scientists have created the foetus. The killing of the foetus is > either legal or it is illegal, regardless of how it was created. Here > is my understanding of the situation. Any human cell (egg, > spermatozoa, etc.) is the property of the person from whom it was > taken, and this person can do with it whatever he wants. This right > of property continues until this cell (or group of cells, including > foetus) can survive on its own. From the moment it can survive on its > own, it becomes a separate human being and has full protection of the > law. > > The cloning will and should proceed. It will be unsuccessful at the > beginning, as everything new in human innovations, but it will be > perfected, and it will become as normal, as in-vitro fertilisation is > now. > > Fabrikant > > P.S. If you wish to see more material written by me, send an E-mail to > hollyric@colba.net, and you will be given the name of my web site on > the condition that you do not post it. If you have doubts about the > authenticity of any posting, send your inquiry to the same address, > and you will get a confirmation or a denial. -- - Outlaw Frog Raper - Schenectady Copwatch (518) 356-4238
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