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Re: CIA - the best in the world

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From: John Gilmer
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:04
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> >"Fabrikant" <benny_patrick@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> White House spokesman was asked whether US President is satisfied with
> >> the CIA performance.  He diplomatically responded that CIA is the best
> >> in the world.  My little brain has great difficulty understanding
> >> this.  As far as we know, there were 4 attempts of plane hijacking,
> >> none was prevented, so terrorists were 100% successful.  Now, presume
> >> that CIA did not exist, and ask yourself a question: how different the
> >> latest events would have been?  Since the terrorists could not be more
> >> than 100% successful, the answer to the previous question is clear:
> >> existence of CIA did not make any difference.
> >
>
>
> ..you have absolutely *no* idea what  you're talking about.  Having
> worked in the Govt for anti-terrorism, I can tell you that threats
> significantly worse than what happened were prevented.  If the
> American people ever knew how big a threat terrorism really is and
> has been we'd have panic in the streets worse than a Godzilla movie.

Sure.   Now go and catch up on your medication.

> The war on terrorism has been going on for a very long time.  You
> think that America, the biggest and one of the easiest targets for
> terrorism wouldn't of suffered much sooner than this if the FBI, CIA,
> NSA and INTERPOL and well as other law enforcement and intelligence
> agencies haven't been working their butts off so you can go to
> sleep at night without a grenade blowing your ass halfway across
> the street?

Un huh.   And yet the man responsible for this attack is well know and has
been well known for his financing anti-American terror for over 10 years.
Yet he is still around?  Frankly, that doesn't say much for ANY of these
alphabet agencies.

>
> The government *cannot* stop every terrorist attack.  Terrorists are
> shewed, their resources vast and they have absolutely no conscience.

The ones with "vast" resources are either associated with hostile
governments or with rich individuals with tacit support of ambivalent
governments (like Saudi Arabia).

The 911 attacks took a LOT of support and handholding.

> Additionally, the American people didn't *want* to spend tons of money
> on anti-terrorism...our NIMBY
> attitude has, unfortunately led to this.  Now we're all screaming to
> spend more money and to be protected from such heinous acts, yet
> when we could of used the money and resources to possibly prevent
> this, no one wanted to agree to spend the money that was needed
> to get the job done.

You seem to be talking out of both sides of your mouth.   If the CIA et. al.
were doing a good job then they already had the needed resources.

>
> I'm not blaming the American people for what happened...clearly the
> blame lies directly on the shoulders on those that committed this
> horrendous act of terrorism.  However, to blame the folks that work
> around the clock trying to keep our soil safe from these attacks,
> especially when they aren't allowed to discuss their successes, is
> a cheap shot and they don't deserve it.

It's not a cheap shot.   they were our shield and they failed.   If they
didn't have the resources they needed at the minimum their high executives
should have taken the opportunity to blow the whistle when it came time for
any of them to retire.   It they did, I didn't hear it.

>
>
>
>
> cheers,
> -aki
>
> 01 FXDWG
> AMA Lifemember...
> DoD#0628...
> HOG,MANS etc etc.
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