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Article #358Re: Fabrikant about shooting in Santana school
From: Charley Brown and SNOOPY
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:22
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:22
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Oh well, welcome to Klinton's AmeriKa. "Isaac Fabrikant" <hollyric@colba.net> wrote in message news:9903mf$1ap$1@news.colba.net... > My heart sinks each time I hear in the news this: yet another shooting, two > are killed and 13 wounded, and yet again the yellow media pretends not to > know why it happened. I quote a typical passage from a newspaper: > > "Santana High School did everything right: anonymous sign-in sheets for > students to report threats, SWAT training for the principal, program to help > youngsters to get along, including one called "Names can really hurt us". A > sheriff s deputy was assigned part-time to the school. Seven full-time > campus supervisors roamed the grounds. Extra phones, radio and speakers > were installed to spread word of trouble quickly across the 1,900-student > campus. Somehow, it wasn't enough." > > Yellow media take people for stupid: we know from other reports that Andy > Williams was bullied on a daily basis, was called "dork", "freak", "geek", > "nerd", his shoes were taken off his feet, etc. There were 7 (seven!) > supervisors "roaming the grounds", how on earth could they not notice a boy, > without shoes? What is the point to have those supervisors, if they do not > see and do not stop bullying? Santana school did nothing right: what is the > point to SWAT train the principal, what is the point to install phones and > radios? All they had to do was to stop abuse of Andy Williams, and then > they would not need anything else. > > School officials claim that Andy never complained to them. I do not buy > this: he even told a number of people of his intentions to bring a gun and > to shoot his abusers, clearly, he tried less radical means earlier; it is > March now, and school abuse started in September. > > Numerous talk shows have various professionals invited, and all of them are > saying that the matter of school violence is too complicated, each case is > different, there is no quick solution and other general and meaningless > phrases. We see on TV screens that police investigators "found no motives > for shooting". We see a picture with big WHY written on the wall. I can > tell you why: IT IS THE ABUSE, STUPID!!! Stop the abuse, and there will be > no shootings anywhere. > > I also read in newspapers that Andy Williams did his shooting to get his "15 > minutes of fame". Nothing could be more stupid than this: he did not look > very happy about all the publicity around him. The yellow media wrote the > same thing about me, that I shot 4 people "to attract attention" to my feud > with the university officials. Noone in his right mind would shoot anyone > just to attract attention. Andy Williams is not insane, and neither was I. > What he felt was extreme pain and utter desperation, I know, I was there. > > There is though a big difference in our cases: I did not plan to kill > anyone, and I was lucky that not a single innocent person was hurt in my > case, but I think, I can explain why Andy Williams shot passersby, some of > them he probably did not know. In his head, they were as guilty as direct > abusers, because they saw him being abused, and probably laughed at him > instead of telling his abusers to stop. It is as simple as that everybody > understands that no abuser can exist unless he sees an audience which > explicitly or implicitly approves his actions, and Andy understood it as > well. So, if you see someone being abused, try to stop it or tell someone > and demand it to stop, because when the abused person goes berserk, it is > you who might get killed. > > I think, I can also explain, why some of the children, involved in school > shootings, killed one or both parents first. Parents are there to protect > their children, and if they not only refuse to protect, but also humiliate > their children and laugh at them, when their children tell them that someone > is bullying them, this creates extreme hatred towards parents. In eyes of > the children, such parents are traitors, and traitors in every society are > hated more than the enemy: they are usually hanged or shot, while the enemy > is taken as a prisoner and kept alive. So, if this is the case, do not be > surprised, when you hear that one or both parents were killed first. > > There is in Canadian jurisprudence the defense of battered woman syndrome. > It originates from the case of a woman in Western Canada, who was severely > abused by her husband for a long time. One day, he threatened to kill her. > She took a rifle and shot him dead. At the time of shooting, he was leaving > the room, and had no weapon with him. She was acquitted on the basis of > battered woman syndrome which states that a woman, subjected to a long and > severe abuse, feels that she, in order to protect her life, has no > alternative but to kill her abuser. I accept this, and even if it was not > so, I mean, even if this battered woman syndrome was a fantasy created by > psychiatrists, a woman killing an abusive husband should be acquitted for a > very simple reason: to send a message to all abusers - start behaving or > risk of being killed. I guarantee that this would be the best way to stop > significant part of family violence. > > The same should be applied to Andy Williams: if we accept the battered woman > syndrome, why can not we accept a battered child syndrome? If you want to > stop shootings at schools, you should stop bullying, and the best way to do > so, is to send a clear message to the bullies: stop bullying or risk of > being killed. I guarantee this would cool them off. If Andy Williams had > the money of O.J. Simpson, his lawyers most certainly would revoke the > battered child syndrome defense, but since he does not, I am pretty sure, > his lawyers would not defend him at all. > > I have seen on TV funeral of one of the children shot at Santana school, and > one of his friends was reading from a prepared sheet of paper: "Somewhere, > down the road, we shall have all the answers ..." Children do not speak like > that; some grown-ups have prepared this speech for him, taking into > consideration that the whole thing was to be bradcasted to the nation. > Hello, WAKE UP, we have all the answers, many years ago. > > V.I. Fabrikant > > >
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