🚀 go-pugleaf

Guy Chandler <oldhippie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Must you always be so mean.  Really, we all need to e nicer to each other.
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Here Guy, here is some of the messages that I am replying to in kind, that
you tend to OVERLOOK:

Subject::Closet niggerfags spreading AIDS to their ho's
Byker <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
news:98t13e$mdo$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> "Many HIV-positive women have had sex with infected drug abusers, but some
> may have become infected by unwittingly having sex with men on the 'down
> low.'  These men do not consider themselves gay or bisexual.  They think
of
> themselves as heterosexual men who like to have sex with men for a
change."
> TNB, in other words....
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> The danger of living 'down low' Black men who hide their bisexuality can
put
> women at risk
>
> By Steve Sternberg
>
> USA TODAY
>
> Black women think he's Prince Charming: well-paid, well-educated, nicely
> dressed, active in church and devoted to family.
>
> Yet, there's something the women don't know and maybe never will: He's
> secretly having sex with men. What's more, he might bring home an
unwelcome
> guest -- HIV, the AIDS virus.
>
> This is life ''on the down low,'' and many black men are living it.
>
> ''I call it the secret society,'' says Jim King, who describes himself as
a
> life member. ''It's a culture that represents probably millions of men
> around the country. It's huge -- from the pulpit to the police force.''
>
> Some men of all races, not just blacks, secretly have sex with men. But
for
> many reasons, the problem is particularly troublesome for those battling
the
> AIDS epidemic in the black community. Perhaps the most important is the
> speed with which HIV is spreading among black women. At the same time, men
> on the ''down low'' see themselves as heterosexual, so they ignore
safe-sex
> warnings aimed at gay or bisexual men.
>
> Some of those on the ''down low'' apparently learned to like sex with men
in
> prison and began dual sex lives after being released, an admission few
will
> ever make, given the power of the black community's taboos against
revealing
> too much and personal concerns about self-preservation.
>
> King, 44, an HIV-prevention consultant from Columbus, Ohio, is a divorced
> father of three grown children who describes himself as ''active in my
> community, in my church and a very respected member of society.''
>
> He has traveled the country on business for years having sexual encounters
> with men and women. He concedes that infidelity ended his marriage. If his
> children know the truth about their father, King says, they never bring it
> up.
>
> He says he decided to go public -- despite ''the homophobia of the black
> community'' -- because AIDS is decimating black families, and he knows
that
> some of the men he calls ''DL brothers'' must be spreading the virus.
>
> King wants to wake women up to the possibility that some of the men they
> meet also frolic with other men. ''Someone in the black community needs to
> say, 'Hey man, you're destroying your family.' ''
>
> HIV has devastated thousands of black families since the epidemic emerged
> almost two decades ago. Since then, federal epidemiologists have logged
more
> than 754,000 AIDS cases nationwide -- about 283,000 of them among blacks.
> Although they represent just 12% of the population, blacks make up 37% of
> all reported AIDS cases.
>
> Overall, researchers estimate that one of every 50 black men and one in
160
> black women in the USA are infected with HIV, though scores have not yet
> been tested. Some health officials believe that ''DL brothers'' may be one
> reason that black women account for almost two-thirds of AIDS cases among
> women.
>
> Michael Sainte-Andress, a health educator for the Whitman-Walker Clinic in
> Washington, D.C., knows firsthand what it's like to live the nightmare of
> HIV/AIDS.
>
> ''My family has buried three people as a result of this disease,'' says
> Sainte-Andress, who has AIDS himself and has lost a brother, nephew and
> cousin.
>
> More than half of AIDS cases among black men now occur in those who have
sex
> with other men, up from 31% in 1989. Using dirty syringes to inject
illegal
> drugs ranks second. Fewer than 10% of the AIDS cases among black men
result
> from heterosexual sex, compared with 38% among women. One study of Job
Corps
> entrants found that HIV was about seven times more prevalent among young
> black women than among white or Hispanic women.
>
> Many HIV-positive women have had sex with infected drug abusers, but some
> may have become infected by unwittingly having sex with men on the ''down
> low.''
>
> These men do not consider themselves gay or bisexual. They think of
> themselves as heterosexual men who like to have sex with men for a change.
>
> ''It is clearly a culture that is masculine in nature,'' says
> Whitman-Walker's executive director Cornelius Baker. ''They are closeted
men
> who identify themselves as straight. The rest of the world identifies them
> as straight because they are involved in relationships with women.''
>
> Illogical as it may seem, he says, many don't think themselves susceptible
> to HIV, believing that it is an affliction of white gay men and black drug
> abusers.
>
> Raenard Brown, 49, an HIV-positive openly gay man from Washington, D.C.,
had
> affairs with three married men before he settled into a faithful
> relationship with his lover of 13 years. For four years as a young man,
> Brown abandoned his gay lifestyle for the love of a woman, who bore him a
> son, now grown. Fortunately, that was before he became infected. The woman
> and his son are HIV-free.
>
> Men living dual lives
>
> No one knows how many black men live dual lives, but clues have emerged
from
> government surveys. A study by the Centers for Disease Control and
> Prevention of 8,780 HIV-positive men who have sex with men found that 24%
of
> the black men identified themselves as heterosexual, compared with 15% of
> Latinos and 6% of whites.
>
> Another CDC study, this one of 3,492 young gay and bisexual men, found
that
> one in six recently had sex with women -- and nearly 25% of those men
> recently had unprotected sex with both men and women.
>
> Most are secretive, fearing that disclosure will cost them their jobs,
their
> standing in the community and their families. ''Now there's the 'ultra'
down
> low, the UDL. That means 'Don't speak of it at all,' '' says E. Lynn
Harris,
> whose groundbreaking 1991 novel Invisible Lives shocked men and women
alike
> with a portrayal of a black man's awakening bisexuality -- and of an
> all-too-common consequence, a college-bound woman whose life is cut short
by
> AIDS.
>
> ''I knew bisexuality was prominent in my community, but no one talked
about
> it,'' Harris says. ''We don't really talk about sex at all.''
>
> That began to change with the publication of Invisible Life.
>
> ''Sisters were having 'Invisible Life' parties, sharing experiences,''
> Sainte-Andress of Whitman-Walker says. ''But they didn't want to jump. In
> our society, women are socialized to be long-suffering and bear the
brunt.''
>
> Why is this culture so secretive? ''We come from grandparents who said,
> 'What happens in this house, stays in this house,' '' says Sandra
McDonald,
> founder of Health Outreach in Atlanta. ''That's the way we operate.''
>
> And why do the ''DL brothers'' insist they're heterosexual? ''Blacks,
> particularly black men, have been labeled in so many ways that are
> degrading,'' Whitman-Walker's Baker says. ''For many black men, (the word)
> gay (is synonymous) with being white, and many don't want to be labeled as
> that.''
>
> King is writing a pamphlet, ''Secrets: The Official Handbook of the
> Lifestyles of African-American Men who Have Sex with Men,'' which he hopes
> will pierce the veil. He has identified personality types typical of ''DL
> brothers,'' including the Rough Neck Player; the most sought-after male;
the
> Brooks Brothers Brother, a professional who ''will only deal with other
men
> at his level or higher''; and the Bi-Curious Brother, who has done prison
> time and likes to let someone perform sex acts on him. His excuse:
> curiosity.
>
> Admittedly, these personality types are generalizations, not verities of
> sociological research. But King has hit on a nugget of common experience
> that may influence some men: prison.
>
> ''In the younger generation,'' says McDonald, ''45% of young
> African-American males are being incarcerated. When they return from that
> (prison) experience, they're not going to say 'I had sex with several
men.'
> That's a taboo conversation. It's difficult for us to have that
> conversation, but this epidemic is forcing us to start, to save lives.''
>
> No public health agency has figured out how to warn men on the ''down
low''
> about the risks they're courting. For one thing, no one knows who they
are.
> That's why King and author Harris are aiming their messages at women.
Their
> suggestions: Ask your man about his sexual history. Don't agree to sex
> unless he wears a condom. Suggest he get an HIV test.
>
> After years of relative silence, many black leaders have begun speaking up
> about AIDS and the toll it takes. Former New York mayor David Dinkins, who
> held the office from 1989 until 1993 and is now a professor of public
> affairs at Columbia University, says some black clergymen, like some of
> their white counterparts, saw HIV as ''God's way of punishing people for
> misbehaving.''
>
> Those attitudes have begun to yield under the relentless pressure of AIDS.
> The Rev. Calvin Butts of New York's Abyssinian Baptist Church recently
> delivered a blistering sermon aimed at those ''lying about their
sexuality,
> claiming to be heterosexual when they are homosexual or bisexual.'' He
> observed: ''They could be taking home a disease that is fatal to their
loved
> ones.'' Although some listeners laughed, Butts says, nervous tittering
> wasn't the only response.
>
> ''People who have been burned by this understand,'' he says. ''While the
> laughter's loud, you may look into the crowd and see someone crying.''
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20010315/3141846s.htm
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