Re: Blame the global warming?

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From: Clifford
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:41

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<TheAmazingGuffy@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Roger Coppock wrote:
>> TheAmazingGuffy@gmail.com wrote:
>> [ . . . ]
>> > Like this paper Roger....
>> > http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20030320/
>> >
>> > "The accurate long-term dataset, therefore, shows a significant
>> > positive trend (.05 percent per decade) in TSI between the solar minima
>> > of solar cycles 21 to 23 (1978 to present).
>>
>> Let's run the numbers.
>>
>> .05%/decade * 1/2 of the time(only during the 11-year minima) *
>> (2006-1978) years =
>> .0005/10*.5*(2006-1978)=0.0007
>> (I'm not entirely sure how to apply the 1/2 of the time,
>> because the definition is not very clear.  However, other
>> possible meanings get similar small fractions.)
>>
>> Multiply that by the solar constant, 1367 W/m^2,
>> and you have about 1 W/m^2
>>
>> 1 W/m^2 is less than the 3 W/m^2 required to explain the current
>> warming.
>> Therefore, even if this unconfirmed report is correct,
>> it is too small to be an explanation for the current observed global
>> warming.
>
> So this statement you made is incorrect....
>
> "Over the last 29 years direct, not proxy, measurement of
> *the* *Sun's* *output* *has* *shown* *no* *long* *term* *growth,*
> just a small amplitude 11-year cycle,
> so something else must be warming the Earth: "
>
> So, something more should be doing it then?
>
> You were so positive that it wasn't the sun at all, now the sun is only
> part of it. I wonder how long it will take to get you to say the sun is
> most of it?
>
Once he realizes that the .05% already takes into consideration the 11 year 
minima.

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