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Article #651Re: About Gomery inquiry and how Fabrikant could pay for it
From: Ivan Gowch
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 19:10
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 19:10
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On Fri, 6 May 2005 16:23:07 -0400, "Basilic" <Basilic@no.thanks> wrote: [snip] ==>I also agree that prisoners are a drag on our system, it just costs too ==>much. But that is a system which we have in place, so shooting the messenger ==>for the content of the message will not change anything. We have to change ==>the prison system, put those people to work for at least 8 hours a day. Make ==>products to sell at profit, Interesting point. But you apparently don't know that almost wherever it's been tried, business has screamed that having prisoners produce "products to sell at profit" constitutes unfair competition by cutting into business's God-given right to restrict profit-making to businessmen. That's the only reason prisoners are not engaged in profit-making ventures, and you are dreaming if you think this would change under a business-worshipping Conservative Reformed/Alliance Party (C.R.A.P.) government. ==>reduce the gastronomy and get back to Kraft ==>Dinners, Oh, yeah, that's a good idea. Not only lock people up, but feed them junk, too. Perhaps we should make them drink out of their toilets, as well. Save water costs. Typical brain-dead, hostile gibbering from a brain-dead C.R.A.P supporter. Let's see now . . . prisoners, women, immigrants, homosexuals -- is there anyone I've left out? Who else's rights does the C.R.A.P. want to restrict? -- "Human rights commissions as they are evolving, are an attack on our fundamental freedoms and the basic existence of a democratic society. It is in fact totalitarianism. I find this is very scary stuff." (Stephen Harper, quoted in B.C. Report Newsmagazine, January 11, 1999) "Universality has been severely reduced: it is virtually dead as a concept in most areas of public policy. These achievements are due in part to the Reform Party." (Harper, in a speech to the Colin Brown Memorial Dinner, National Citizens Coalition, 1994, explaining his pride in having helped to deny some Canadians affordable medical care.) "Canada appears content to become a second-tier socialistic country, boasting ever more loudly about its economy and social services to mask its second-rate status." (Harper explains why he thinks Canada is a "second-rate" country, quoted in the National Post, Dec. 8, 2000). "Handing over the reins of government to a man who has contempt for his own country would be a catastrophic mistake. Scandal or no scandal, Canadians need to keep their eye on the prize: the future of their country." (Murray Dobbin, commenting on Harper in The Tyee.) "I don't know all the facts on Iraq, but I think we should work closely with the Americans." (Harper explains why he thinks Canada should march in lock-step with the predatory torturer nation to the south, even if it doesn't understand why it is going somewhere to kill people. Quoted in Report Newsmagazine, March 25 2002). "We support the war effort and believe we should be supporting our troops and our allies and be there with them doing everything necessary to win." (Harper, explaining why he is enthusiastic about an illegal U.S. campaign of aggression that almost the entire rest of the world deplores, Montreal Gazette, April 2, 2003) "This party will not take its position based on public opinion polls." (Harper, quoted in Hansard, January 29, 2003). "The public will tell us. We're listening to them, and . . . at some point, they'll say, 'pull the plug, drain the swamp, let's go.'" (Senior Conservative MP John Reynolds tells CTV News, April 17, 2005) "As soon as we get back, I will be asking our caucus to put this government out of its misery at the earliest possible opportunity." (Harper, in a televised speech from Amherstburg, Ont., April 27, 2005, after public opinion polls showed the Tories slightly ahead.).
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