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Started by Fabrikant
Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:14
Heroic escape?
Author: Fabrikant
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:14
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:14
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Each year in May and November we hear all the stories about Allies, whose heroic entry in the World War II changed the course of war and led to the victory. Nothing is true in this propaganda: in June of 1944, Hitler was kicked out of the USSR and part of Eastern Europe, he was essentially defeated. Allies entered the war for the sole purpose not to allow Stalin grab all of Europe and to share the spoils of war. They did the same in WWI by entering the war one year before its end. There was little heroic in the way Allies fought Hitler: they got stuck in Ardennes and begged Stalin to start his attack earlier than he planned in order to attract part of German army from Ardennes to him. Stalin was happy to oblige. During the time Soviet army liberated Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and Albania and conquered most of Germany, Berlin included, Allies still have not managed to liberate all major cities of Holland by the war end. The Dutch are still grateful, but this is just an indication of their nicety; which has nothing to do with -the facts. Then there was yet another fiasco with airborne attack near Arnhem in the Netherlands: dumb Montgomery sent British solders to a sure death. I saw recently a show entitled "Heroic Escape" about British, who stuck near Arnhem and managed to escape back to their Army. They did it by hiding in Dutch families, who helped them endangering their own lives and taking the food out of mouth of their children, while the whole Holland was starving. They were hiding, month after month, and shy Dutch people did not have the courage to tell these parasites to recall that they were soldiers and that their duty was to fight enemy and to die if necessary, rather than be hiding among civilians. There is nothing heroic in a soldier running away from the enemy. Let us call a spade a spade: "heroic" soldier running away from the enemy is called coward. Fabrikant
Re: Heroic escape?
Author: Billy
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:40
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:40
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Niet! Only chalking the days on your cell's wall until the end... No heroic escape for you!!! (((((( HA HA HA )))
Re: Heroic escape?
Author: Defender of Enormous Manhood
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:42
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:42
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Actually that's Nyet, Nyet Soviet! "Billy" <AmirHamadi@aol.com> wrote in message news:1134409230.129401.307750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Niet! > > Only chalking the days on your cell's wall until the end... > > No heroic escape for you!!! > > (((((( HA HA HA ))) >
Re: Heroic escape?
Author: Terry
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:53
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:53
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<benny_patrick7@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1134400446.495581.283000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Each year in May and November we hear all the stories about Allies, > whose heroic entry in the World War II changed the course of war and > led to the victory ................................ snipped > .......................... . Another pathetic attempt to rewrite WWII history from a particular angle/point of view! Not worth further comment; better historians abound; including some who were actually there!
Re: Heroic escape?
Author: Nexus7
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:09
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:09
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Fabrikant wrote: > There is nothing heroic in a soldier running away from the enemy. Let But there's something very presidential about it.
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