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I think the reason is Russia is behind the times.  40 years ago the
things you mentioned didn't happened in the west either.

When I was a little child, I  ALSO played in the street, without any
adult supervision and no child ever disappeared.  It was not too long
ago when the first child disappeared.

BTW I don't know if it's true but there were stories where some high
soviet officials like children.  If the parents didn't like it.  They
disappeared.

In chi.general Fabrikant <benny_patrick7@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I wrote in my previous posting that during the war with Hitler, there
> were no refugee camps, everybody was accepted by local population and
> nobody considered this to be something heroic.  It was normal, period.
> I also wrote that there were no rapes among evacuees.  Some people were
> questioning, how do I know there were no rapes, since at that time
> there was no CNN.  The question says a lot about Americans: they
> consider their behaviour as a norm and it does not even cross their
> mind that different people behave differently.  Here is how I know.

In russia 40 years ago, I doubt you'd be writing about the government for 
very long before dissappearing.

Advice about normal behavior from a convicted mass murderer?
Now this must be your attempt to pursue stand-up comedy when you get relesed 
in a decade or so!
People just don't murder their co-workers Fabrikant.

And give me a break. There are homosexuals in the Soviet Union. Only under 
communism it was a criminal offense, kinda like practicing a religion.
Yes, children are molested in the USSR. Only the papers were controlled and 
censored, so was the radio and TV. You can sterilize the perception of the 
normalcy of society, when you keep the people ignorant.

"Fabrikant" <benny_patrick7@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1132497906.516044.107560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>I wrote in my previous posting that during the war with Hitler, there
> were no refugee camps, everybody was accepted by local population and
> nobody considered this to be something heroic.  It was normal, period.

What the refugess camps or the death camps. Oh, right yeah refugess were 
left to die. There were no camps, you are right.
But the one's fleeing were not accepted with open arms. They were left to 
die, not allowed entery into safe countries.
It's normal for you to revise history.

> I also wrote that there were no rapes among evacuees.  Some people were
> questioning, how do I know there were no rapes, since at that time
> there was no CNN.  The question says a lot about Americans: they
> consider their behaviour as a norm and it does not even cross their
> mind that different people behave differently.  Here is how I know.

You know shit!

In terms of the actual numbers of rapes, the Amazon.com reviewer is probably 
correct. This atrocity by the Japanese government probably represents the 
largest mass rape in recorded history. Rapes probably numbered in excess of 
ten million. However, in terms of the numbers of women raped, there was at 
least one other wartime event which involved more women: the rape of German, 
Polish and even Russian women by Russian soldiers during the final months of 
World War II in Europe. Hopefully, the new permanent International Criminal 
Court will give future women victims an opportunity to initiate lawsuits 
against their attackers and obtain justice.


>
> I shall start with an example.  Everybody knows that during civil war
> in Sierra Leone there were numerous cases of limb amputations of
> civilians, children were forced to kill their parents.  You may say
> that nothing like that ever happened during American civil war.

Bull crap - in the American Civil war Murder, rape and vicsiou vengeful 
actions were widespread.

>  If
> somebody asks you, how do you know, there was no CNN at that time, your
> response will be: "I know, because our people just does not do this
> kind of things".  So, my response is exactly the same: "I know, because
> Soviet people just did not do this kind of things".  There are certain
> things, which are typical for English and French and are not typical
> for Soviet people.  I give some examples below.
>

Yes, you just know it's normal to kill people over a stupid career dispute.
Sorry, I don't buy your, I just know dementia!

> It was not uncommon in the Soviet Union to be awaken in the middle of
> night by a drunken voice singing a song in the street at the top of his
> lungs, something I never encountered in Canada.

Yes, because we are not a nation of alcholoics. But yes, I have heard drunks 
singing at loud volumes in the middle of the night, but usually it is 
teenagers, too young to drink legally, and had too much to drink, and like 
immature adults, need to learn how to handle their alcohol and how to 
behave. Guess Soviet men are really teenage boys emotionally, perhaps that 
is why every good looking Russian woman wants to get out of Russia!


>  On the other hand,
> when I was a little child, I played in the street, without any adult
> supervision and no child ever disappeared.  It just did not happen.  I
> lived in USSR for 39 years and never was approached by a homosexual.

Give me a break, you mean you never saw a hild wisked off the street because 
they were disodents?
I thought that was one of the quaint qualities of living in the USSR during 
comunism, never knowing when they would come for you!

> During the very first month after my arrival to Montreal, someone tried
> to grab my crotch in the sauna of the house, where I lived.  You can
> imagine my bewilderment.

Yeah, they don't kill homosexuals here, so they are braver.

> There was practically no boarding school or orphanage in English or
> French countries, where there would be no allegations of sexual abuse
> of children.  During 39 years I lived in the USSR, I never heard of a
> single case.  It is not that Soviets are extremely sexually attracted
> to children and are fighting their desires, the explanation is much
> simpler: for a normal person, a child presents no sexual attraction,
> period.

That is true. But then normal people don't murder either!
So what is your point? That you are not normal?


If you read Solzhenitsyn, he described many horrors of GOULAG
> and you might notice that homosexual rape in jail was not one of them.
> On the other hand, numerous postings describe such an even as inherent
> in American jails.  Sexual perversion in English and French is much
> much greater than in Soviet people, probably more than a thousand to
> one.

Nice speculative guess based on your twisted perception of reality.
That is why no nation jails more people than Russia. And you are going to 
tell me that Russian criminals don't include sex offenders.
Sorry, but you are going to have to show us official statisitics, but ones 
that have been verified by a third party like Amnesty International.
Otherwise, I would believe nothing you say. It is your own opinion, baseless 
in facts, and likely as void from normalacy as any convicted mass murderer 
with an asshole son that posts his crap to the internet, to insult and 
further hurt his victims and their families. You disgust me, but not as much 
as your son.


>
> I never heard of any violent crime in public transport or in elevators.
> Moscow metro was the safest place in town.  I can only guess, why this
> was so.  If someone tried to rob a passenger in metro, either the
> robbed would scream or other people see it and at least one will jump
> the robber, after which others would join and they would not wait for
> police to arrive.

Yes, sounds like the rule of law is not present, and mob justice prevails. 
Nice place!
No wonder my great-great grand-parents fled it back in the mid 1800s.
Before the place went insane.

> A number of years ago, I have read about a woman in New York, who
> shouted at the top of her lungs while being raped, everybody heard her
> and nobody even bothered to call police.  This kind of event was just
> not possible in the USSR.  At the first scream, a crowd of men with
> sticks would run after the rapist, and he better start running early,
> because if this crowd gets him, he would never walk again and there is
> good chance, he would never breath again.

Who needs courts? I guess jogging is not popular, a mob might think you were 
the rapist with the head start and beat an innocent man so he never walked 
again. But now I see how you were raised, and how you felt it was your right 
and duty to kill your co-workers, because you were going to be fired, beause 
you were a fraud, and they finally had the proof they needed to bounce you 
from Academia forever! Only you beat them to it, and bounced yourself for 
ever, as you took what you learned in the USSR and applied it to your 
situation.. You are just a thug.


>
> All men had wives and some had daughters, they did not want to
> rehabilitate rapists, they did not want rapists walking around, period.
> The above is just my guess, because in 39 years of my life in USSR, I
> have not heard of a single woman raped and shouting for help.

Well how about the Russian army raping Russian women....you never heard 
about that?
Boy you lived a very sheltered life in Russia, eh?

> All the cases of rape I heard of were "date rapes".  Russians were
> quite puritan people back then and sex before marriage was "immoral".
> In many cases, sex was consensual, but when it became public knowledge,
> the woman started shouting rape and many men went to jail because of
> this.

Hey asshole, you just said you never heard about a single rape.
But you know very well what men do when they find out another raped a woman, 
they beat the shit ut of them.
So you did hear about rapes, you are now a liar too, your own lies caught 
you. ANd men here want to beat the shit out of the rapist too, only they let 
the police do it, because we live under the rule of law, and don't take 
justice into our own hands.

> Fabrikant
>