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Demand growing for naturally raised meats
#79
Author: Tim Campbell
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:45
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Americans are increasingly willing to fork over a little extra for free
range, organic, and natural meats. And although these still comprise a
tiny percentage of the total U.S. market, the food industry is starting
to notice. In just one sign of a shift, about 450 growers operating
under the aegis of San Francisco-based natural meats supplier Niman
Ranch are finding a market for their products from the Chipotle Mexican
Grill chain, a subsidiary of McDonald's. Chipotle often buys all the
pork Niman can supply; it's added naturally raised chicken to the menu,
with plans for beef in the works. Demand from specialty grocers like
Whole Foods is also changing the market. Many farmers and ranchers who
produce natural meats take pride in raising animals the way it's been
done for most of human history. Says Iowa free-range hog farmer Paul
Mencke, "I've been farming for 32 years, and this is the only way I
know how to raise hogs."


straight to the source: Chicago Tribune, John Schmeltzer, 18 Sep 2005
Re: Demand growing for naturally raised meats
#80
Author: Arne Adolfsen
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07:16
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Tim Campbell wrote:

> Americans are increasingly willing to fork over a little extra for free
> range, organic, and natural meats. And although these still comprise a
> tiny percentage of the total U.S. market, the food industry is starting
> to notice. In just one sign of a shift, about 450 growers operating
> under the aegis of San Francisco-based natural meats supplier Niman
> Ranch are finding a market for their products from the Chipotle Mexican
> Grill chain, a subsidiary of McDonald's. Chipotle often buys all the
> pork Niman can supply; it's added naturally raised chicken to the menu,
> with plans for beef in the works. Demand from specialty grocers like
> Whole Foods is also changing the market. Many farmers and ranchers who
> produce natural meats take pride in raising animals the way it's been
> done for most of human history. Says Iowa free-range hog farmer Paul
> Mencke, "I've been farming for 32 years, and this is the only way I
> know how to raise hogs."
>
> straight to the source: Chicago Tribune, John Schmeltzer, 18 Sep 2005

Lovely.  You don't cc the food newsgroups of the second and third largest
cities in the US (and the fourth and fifth largest, etc.).  The population
of San Fran is less than a third the size of the LA suburb -- which is
still within LA city boundaries -- that I grew up in.   I guess we in LA
-- and Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, etc. -- are the little people who
pay taxes (or large restaurant bills) while you 'Friscans are right up
there with Leona Helmsley with your disdain for the rest of us 'Muricans
who pay taxes (and large restaurant bills) .  'Friscans' self-loving and
self-aggrandizing regard has revolted me from my first vist to the city in
1972.  Get over yourselves.

BTW, why hasn't Meg "Twirley" Whorley -- she of Palo Alto, and
occasionally Claremont, who used to haunt la.eats and regularly provide
inane and out-of-date restaurant reviews and general information about
LA-area restaurants until I shamed her off the newsgroup -- not jumped
onto the ba.food bandwagon?  Was she already blacklisted by you guys?  Did
she read the tea leaves and guess that Stanford was going to dismiss her
and that she'd have to spend the year full-time in Claremont and she
couldn't face more embarassing questions?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Arne
adolfsen@earthlink.net
Re: Demand growing for naturally raised meats
#81
Author: Rudy Canoza
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07:48
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Arne Adolfsen wrote:

> Tim Campbell wrote:
> 
> 
>>Americans are increasingly willing to fork over a little extra for free
>>range, organic, and natural meats. And although these still comprise a
>>tiny percentage of the total U.S. market, the food industry is starting
>>to notice. In just one sign of a shift, about 450 growers operating
>>under the aegis of San Francisco-based natural meats supplier Niman
>>Ranch are finding a market for their products from the Chipotle Mexican
>>Grill chain, a subsidiary of McDonald's. Chipotle often buys all the
>>pork Niman can supply; it's added naturally raised chicken to the menu,
>>with plans for beef in the works. Demand from specialty grocers like
>>Whole Foods is also changing the market. Many farmers and ranchers who
>>produce natural meats take pride in raising animals the way it's been
>>done for most of human history. Says Iowa free-range hog farmer Paul
>>Mencke, "I've been farming for 32 years, and this is the only way I
>>know how to raise hogs."
>>
>>straight to the source: Chicago Tribune, John Schmeltzer, 18 Sep 2005
> 
> 
> Lovely.  You don't cc the food newsgroups of the second and third largest
> cities in the US (and the fourth and fifth largest, etc.).  The population
> of San Fran is less than a third the size of the LA suburb -- which is
> still within LA city boundaries -- that I grew up in.   I guess we in LA
> -- and Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, etc. -- are the little people who
> pay taxes (or large restaurant bills) while you 'Friscans are right up
> there with Leona Helmsley with your disdain for the rest of us 'Muricans
> who pay taxes (and large restaurant bills) .  'Friscans' self-loving and
> self-aggrandizing regard has revolted me from my first vist to the city in
> 1972.  Get over yourselves.

It won't happen.  I'm L.A. born and reared, and I lived 
in the S.F. area from 1982-84, and again in 1987-88, 
and a few months in 1990.  You couldn't create a more 
self-absorbed, self-important, unwarrantedly snobbish 
group of people than Friscans (always use 'Frisco' and 
'Friscans' when speaking to and about them) if Dr. 
Frankenstein himself helped you.

The thing that most cracked me up when I was there was 
that S.F. was *every bit* as much a city of immigrants 
from other parts of the country as is L.A., but the 
arrivistes all tried to be more-Friscan-than-thou, and 
practically squealed aloud "This is the ONLY city for 
MEEEEEEEEEE!"  And of course, when the straight ones 
married and kids came along, it was WHAMMO! - straight 
out to Livermore or Concord or some other safe 'burb 
where the kiddies wouldn't have to rub shoulders in 
school with...well...[ahem]...ah...you know...the gooks 
and the Mission District spics and the Western Addition 
boogaloos, not to put too fine a point on it.

I used to have loads of fun - Wheeeeee! - when Friscans 
would ask me what I was doing up there, once they 
learned I was from L.A., and with a straight face I'd 
reply, "Oh, I'm checking out some new sources of water 
we can steal."  No one ever laughed; dunno why.  Hey, 
here's a neat trick:  ask the 
"conservationist"/"environmentalist" community in S.F. 
- that is, the entire fucking population - why they 
didn't get behind Donald Hodel's (Sec'y of Interior, 
1987) proposal to tear down O'Shaughnessy Dam in the 
Hetch Hetchy valley, and restore the valley to its 
original condition; John Muir said Hetch Hetchy rivaled 
Yosemite for natural beauty.  Dianne Feinstein nearly 
went into premature menopause over that Hodel's proposal.

Friscans - arrogant precious shitbags, the lot of 'em.
Re: Demand growing for naturally raised meats
#82
Author: John Walsh
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:25
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Rudy Canoza wrote:
> 
> Arne Adolfsen wrote:
> 
> > Tim Campbell wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Americans are increasingly willing to fork over a little extra for free
> >>range, organic, and natural meats. And although these still comprise a
> >>tiny percentage of the total U.S. market, the food industry is starting
> >>to notice. In just one sign of a shift, about 450 growers operating
> >>under the aegis of San Francisco-based natural meats supplier Niman
> >>Ranch are finding a market for their products from the Chipotle Mexican
> >>Grill chain, a subsidiary of McDonald's. Chipotle often buys all the
> >>pork Niman can supply; it's added naturally raised chicken to the menu,
> >>with plans for beef in the works. Demand from specialty grocers like
> >>Whole Foods is also changing the market. Many farmers and ranchers who
> >>produce natural meats take pride in raising animals the way it's been
> >>done for most of human history. Says Iowa free-range hog farmer Paul
> >>Mencke, "I've been farming for 32 years, and this is the only way I
> >>know how to raise hogs."
> >>
> >>straight to the source: Chicago Tribune, John Schmeltzer, 18 Sep 2005
> >
> >
> > Lovely.  You don't cc the food newsgroups of the second and third largest
> > cities in the US (and the fourth and fifth largest, etc.).  The population
> > of San Fran is less than a third the size of the LA suburb -- which is
> > still within LA city boundaries -- that I grew up in.   I guess we in LA
> > -- and Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, etc. -- are the little people who
> > pay taxes (or large restaurant bills) while you 'Friscans are right up
> > there with Leona Helmsley with your disdain for the rest of us 'Muricans
> > who pay taxes (and large restaurant bills) .  'Friscans' self-loving and
> > self-aggrandizing regard has revolted me from my first vist to the city in
> > 1972.  Get over yourselves.
> 
> It won't happen.  I'm L.A. born and reared, and I lived
> in the S.F. area from 1982-84, and again in 1987-88,
> and a few months in 1990.  You couldn't create a more
> self-absorbed, self-important, unwarrantedly snobbish
> group of people than Friscans (always use 'Frisco' and
> 'Friscans' when speaking to and about them) if Dr.
> Frankenstein himself helped you.
> 
> The thing that most cracked me up when I was there was
> that S.F. was *every bit* as much a city of immigrants
> from other parts of the country as is L.A., but the
> arrivistes all tried to be more-Friscan-than-thou, and
> practically squealed aloud "This is the ONLY city for
> MEEEEEEEEEE!"  And of course, when the straight ones
> married and kids came along, it was WHAMMO! - straight
> out to Livermore or Concord or some other safe 'burb
> where the kiddies wouldn't have to rub shoulders in
> school with...well...[ahem]...ah...you know...the gooks
> and the Mission District spics and the Western Addition
> boogaloos, not to put too fine a point on it.
> 
> I used to have loads of fun - Wheeeeee! - when Friscans
> would ask me what I was doing up there, once they
> learned I was from L.A., and with a straight face I'd
> reply, "Oh, I'm checking out some new sources of water
> we can steal."  No one ever laughed; dunno why.  Hey,
> here's a neat trick:  ask the
> "conservationist"/"environmentalist" community in S.F.
> - that is, the entire fucking population - why they
> didn't get behind Donald Hodel's (Sec'y of Interior,
> 1987) proposal to tear down O'Shaughnessy Dam in the
> Hetch Hetchy valley, and restore the valley to its
> original condition; John Muir said Hetch Hetchy rivaled
> Yosemite for natural beauty.  Dianne Feinstein nearly
> went into premature menopause over that Hodel's proposal.
> 
> Friscans - arrogant precious shitbags, the lot of 'em.

Post it were the light don't shine, ya fag.
Re: Demand growing for naturally raised meats
#83
Author: Rudy Canoza
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:26
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John Walsh wrote:

> Rudy Canoza wrote:
> 
>>Arne Adolfsen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tim Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Americans are increasingly willing to fork over a little extra for free
>>>>range, organic, and natural meats. And although these still comprise a
>>>>tiny percentage of the total U.S. market, the food industry is starting
>>>>to notice. In just one sign of a shift, about 450 growers operating
>>>>under the aegis of San Francisco-based natural meats supplier Niman
>>>>Ranch are finding a market for their products from the Chipotle Mexican
>>>>Grill chain, a subsidiary of McDonald's. Chipotle often buys all the
>>>>pork Niman can supply; it's added naturally raised chicken to the menu,
>>>>with plans for beef in the works. Demand from specialty grocers like
>>>>Whole Foods is also changing the market. Many farmers and ranchers who
>>>>produce natural meats take pride in raising animals the way it's been
>>>>done for most of human history. Says Iowa free-range hog farmer Paul
>>>>Mencke, "I've been farming for 32 years, and this is the only way I
>>>>know how to raise hogs."
>>>>
>>>>straight to the source: Chicago Tribune, John Schmeltzer, 18 Sep 2005
>>>
>>>
>>>Lovely.  You don't cc the food newsgroups of the second and third largest
>>>cities in the US (and the fourth and fifth largest, etc.).  The population
>>>of San Fran is less than a third the size of the LA suburb -- which is
>>>still within LA city boundaries -- that I grew up in.   I guess we in LA
>>>-- and Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, etc. -- are the little people who
>>>pay taxes (or large restaurant bills) while you 'Friscans are right up
>>>there with Leona Helmsley with your disdain for the rest of us 'Muricans
>>>who pay taxes (and large restaurant bills) .  'Friscans' self-loving and
>>>self-aggrandizing regard has revolted me from my first vist to the city in
>>>1972.  Get over yourselves.
>>
>>It won't happen.  I'm L.A. born and reared, and I lived
>>in the S.F. area from 1982-84, and again in 1987-88,
>>and a few months in 1990.  You couldn't create a more
>>self-absorbed, self-important, unwarrantedly snobbish
>>group of people than Friscans (always use 'Frisco' and
>>'Friscans' when speaking to and about them) if Dr.
>>Frankenstein himself helped you.
>>
>>The thing that most cracked me up when I was there was
>>that S.F. was *every bit* as much a city of immigrants
>>from other parts of the country as is L.A., but the
>>arrivistes all tried to be more-Friscan-than-thou, and
>>practically squealed aloud "This is the ONLY city for
>>MEEEEEEEEEE!"  And of course, when the straight ones
>>married and kids came along, it was WHAMMO! - straight
>>out to Livermore or Concord or some other safe 'burb
>>where the kiddies wouldn't have to rub shoulders in
>>school with...well...[ahem]...ah...you know...the gooks
>>and the Mission District spics and the Western Addition
>>boogaloos, not to put too fine a point on it.
>>
>>I used to have loads of fun - Wheeeeee! - when Friscans
>>would ask me what I was doing up there, once they
>>learned I was from L.A., and with a straight face I'd
>>reply, "Oh, I'm checking out some new sources of water
>>we can steal."  No one ever laughed; dunno why.  Hey,
>>here's a neat trick:  ask the
>>"conservationist"/"environmentalist" community in S.F.
>>- that is, the entire fucking population - why they
>>didn't get behind Donald Hodel's (Sec'y of Interior,
>>1987) proposal to tear down O'Shaughnessy Dam in the
>>Hetch Hetchy valley, and restore the valley to its
>>original condition; John Muir said Hetch Hetchy rivaled
>>Yosemite for natural beauty.  Dianne Feinstein nearly
>>went into premature menopause over that Hodel's proposal.
>>
>>Friscans - arrogant precious shitbags, the lot of 'em.
> 
> 
> Post it were the light don't shine, ya fag.

You're the fudge-packer, you Frisco faggot.
Re: Demand growing for naturally raised meats
#84
Author: James Farrar
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:38
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Killed on the first post. Quite impressive work, idiot.

-- 
James Farrar
     .      @gmail.com
Re: Demand growing for naturally raised meats
#85
Author: Ford Prefect
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:59
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"Rudy Canoza" <someguy@ph.con> wrote in message
news:_UtYe.2172$vw6.1781@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> John Walsh wrote:
>
> > Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >
> >>Arne Adolfsen wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Tim Campbell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Americans are increasingly willing to fork over a little extra for
free
> >>>>range, organic, and natural meats. And although these still comprise a
> >>>>tiny percentage of the total U.S. market, the food industry is
starting
> >>>>to notice. In just one sign of a shift, about 450 growers operating
> >>>>under the aegis of San Francisco-based natural meats supplier Niman
> >>>>Ranch are finding a market for their products from the Chipotle
Mexican
> >>>>Grill chain, a subsidiary of McDonald's. Chipotle often buys all the
> >>>>pork Niman can supply; it's added naturally raised chicken to the
menu,
> >>>>with plans for beef in the works. Demand from specialty grocers like
> >>>>Whole Foods is also changing the market. Many farmers and ranchers who
> >>>>produce natural meats take pride in raising animals the way it's been
> >>>>done for most of human history. Says Iowa free-range hog farmer Paul
> >>>>Mencke, "I've been farming for 32 years, and this is the only way I
> >>>>know how to raise hogs."
> >>>>
> >>>>straight to the source: Chicago Tribune, John Schmeltzer, 18 Sep 2005
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Lovely.  You don't cc the food newsgroups of the second and third
largest
> >>>cities in the US (and the fourth and fifth largest, etc.).  The
population
> >>>of San Fran is less than a third the size of the LA suburb -- which is
> >>>still within LA city boundaries -- that I grew up in.   I guess we in
LA
> >>>-- and Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, etc. -- are the little people who
> >>>pay taxes (or large restaurant bills) while you 'Friscans are right up
> >>>there with Leona Helmsley with your disdain for the rest of us
'Muricans
> >>>who pay taxes (and large restaurant bills) .  'Friscans' self-loving
and
> >>>self-aggrandizing regard has revolted me from my first vist to the city
in
> >>>1972.  Get over yourselves.
> >>
> >>It won't happen.  I'm L.A. born and reared, and I lived
> >>in the S.F. area from 1982-84, and again in 1987-88,
> >>and a few months in 1990.  You couldn't create a more
> >>self-absorbed, self-important, unwarrantedly snobbish
> >>group of people than Friscans (always use 'Frisco' and
> >>'Friscans' when speaking to and about them) if Dr.
> >>Frankenstein himself helped you.
> >>
> >>The thing that most cracked me up when I was there was
> >>that S.F. was *every bit* as much a city of immigrants
> >>from other parts of the country as is L.A., but the
> >>arrivistes all tried to be more-Friscan-than-thou, and
> >>practically squealed aloud "This is the ONLY city for
> >>MEEEEEEEEEE!"  And of course, when the straight ones
> >>married and kids came along, it was WHAMMO! - straight
> >>out to Livermore or Concord or some other safe 'burb
> >>where the kiddies wouldn't have to rub shoulders in
> >>school with...well...[ahem]...ah...you know...the gooks
> >>and the Mission District spics and the Western Addition
> >>boogaloos, not to put too fine a point on it.
> >>
> >>I used to have loads of fun - Wheeeeee! - when Friscans
> >>would ask me what I was doing up there, once they
> >>learned I was from L.A., and with a straight face I'd
> >>reply, "Oh, I'm checking out some new sources of water
> >>we can steal."  No one ever laughed; dunno why.  Hey,
> >>here's a neat trick:  ask the
> >>"conservationist"/"environmentalist" community in S.F.
> >>- that is, the entire fucking population - why they
> >>didn't get behind Donald Hodel's (Sec'y of Interior,
> >>1987) proposal to tear down O'Shaughnessy Dam in the
> >>Hetch Hetchy valley, and restore the valley to its
> >>original condition; John Muir said Hetch Hetchy rivaled
> >>Yosemite for natural beauty.  Dianne Feinstein nearly
> >>went into premature menopause over that Hodel's proposal.
> >>
> >>Friscans - arrogant precious shitbags, the lot of 'em.
> >
> >
> > Post it were the light don't shine, ya fag.
>
> You're the fudge-packer, you Frisco faggot.

Another disgruntled Cokeboy fan speaks. lol!

Pardon me, asshole, but your xenophobia is sticking out (again) - from the
back of your pants.
You should do something about that.
Re: Demand growing for naturally raised meats
#86
Author: Golden California Girls
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:55
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Troll defined:
Newsgroups:
                        nyc.food, ba.food, co.food, alt.california,
alt.org.sierra-club, la.eats

la.eats, has declared a PISS on Arne's posts.  I suggest the rest of usenet
follow suit.  The angry queer queen has nothing to do all day but vent
venom.  Best just leave it where it lands.


as for Rudy Canoza <someguy@ph.con> who replied and added groups:
Newsgroups:
                        nyc.food, ba.food, co.food, alt.california,
alt.org.sierra-club, la.eats, alt.personals.sanfrancisco.married-attach,
alt.sports.baseball.sf-giants, alt.sports.football.pro.sf-49ers

he just earned a PISS as well.





PISS           Passive Ignorance Silence Strike  -- total and complete ignore
the child troll.


Arne Adolfsen wrote:

> Tim Campbell wrote:
>
> > Americans are increasingly willing to fork over a little extra for free
> > range, organic, and natural meats. And although these still comprise a
> > tiny percentage of the total U.S. market, the food industry is starting
> > to notice. In just one sign of a shift, about 450 growers operating
> > under the aegis of San Francisco-based natural meats supplier Niman
> > Ranch are finding a market for their products from the Chipotle Mexican
> > Grill chain, a subsidiary of McDonald's. Chipotle often buys all the
> > pork Niman can supply; it's added naturally raised chicken to the menu,
> > with plans for beef in the works. Demand from specialty grocers like
> > Whole Foods is also changing the market. Many farmers and ranchers who
> > produce natural meats take pride in raising animals the way it's been
> > done for most of human history. Says Iowa free-range hog farmer Paul
> > Mencke, "I've been farming for 32 years, and this is the only way I
> > know how to raise hogs."
> >
> > straight to the source: Chicago Tribune, John Schmeltzer, 18 Sep 2005
>
> Lovely.  You don't cc the food newsgroups of the second and third largest
> cities in the US (and the fourth and fifth largest, etc.).  The population
> of San Fran is less than a third the size of the LA suburb -- which is
> still within LA city boundaries -- that I grew up in.   I guess we in LA
> -- and Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, etc. -- are the little people who
> pay taxes (or large restaurant bills) while you 'Friscans are right up
> there with Leona Helmsley with your disdain for the rest of us 'Muricans
> who pay taxes (and large restaurant bills) .  'Friscans' self-loving and
> self-aggrandizing regard has revolted me from my first vist to the city in
> 1972.  Get over yourselves.
>
> BTW, why hasn't Meg "Twirley" Whorley -- she of Palo Alto, and
> occasionally Claremont, who used to haunt la.eats and regularly provide
> inane and out-of-date restaurant reviews and general information about
> LA-area restaurants until I shamed her off the newsgroup -- not jumped
> onto the ba.food bandwagon?  Was she already blacklisted by you guys?  Did
> she read the tea leaves and guess that Stanford was going to dismiss her
> and that she'd have to spend the year full-time in Claremont and she
> couldn't face more embarassing questions?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> Arne
> adolfsen@earthlink.net
Re: Demand growing for naturally raised meats
#87
Author: notbob
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:24
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On 2005-09-22, Golden California Girls <gldncagrls@aol.com.mil> wrote:
> Troll defined:
> Newsgroups:
>                         nyc.food, ba.food, co.food, alt.california,
> alt.org.sierra-club, la.eats
>
> la.eats, has declared a PISS on.......

Well, notbob declares all you useless, cross-posting, no-formating,
no-trimming, no-anything-of-value twits to be officially pissed on and
scored to /dev/null.  ta-ta....

nb
Re: Demand growing for naturally raised meats
#88
Author: Rudy Canoza
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:28
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notbob wrote:
> On 2005-09-22, Golden California Girls <gldncagrls@aol.com.mil> wrote:
> 
>>Troll defined:
>>Newsgroups:
>>                        nyc.food, ba.food, co.food, alt.california,
>>alt.org.sierra-club, la.eats
>>
>>la.eats, has declared a PISS on.......
> 
> 
> Well, notbob declares all you useless, cross-posting, no-formating,
> no-trimming, no-anything-of-value twits to be officially pissed on and
> scored to /dev/null.  ta-ta....

As if we care...
Re: Demand growing for naturally raised meats
#89
Author: John Walsh
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:39
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Rudy Canoza wrote:
> 
> John Walsh wrote:
> 
> > Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >
> >>Arne Adolfsen wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Tim Campbell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Americans are increasingly willing to fork over a little extra for free
> >>>>range, organic, and natural meats. And although these still comprise a
> >>>>tiny percentage of the total U.S. market, the food industry is starting
> >>>>to notice. In just one sign of a shift, about 450 growers operating
> >>>>under the aegis of San Francisco-based natural meats supplier Niman
> >>>>Ranch are finding a market for their products from the Chipotle Mexican
> >>>>Grill chain, a subsidiary of McDonald's. Chipotle often buys all the
> >>>>pork Niman can supply; it's added naturally raised chicken to the menu,
> >>>>with plans for beef in the works. Demand from specialty grocers like
> >>>>Whole Foods is also changing the market. Many farmers and ranchers who
> >>>>produce natural meats take pride in raising animals the way it's been
> >>>>done for most of human history. Says Iowa free-range hog farmer Paul
> >>>>Mencke, "I've been farming for 32 years, and this is the only way I
> >>>>know how to raise hogs."
> >>>>
> >>>>straight to the source: Chicago Tribune, John Schmeltzer, 18 Sep 2005
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Lovely.  You don't cc the food newsgroups of the second and third largest
> >>>cities in the US (and the fourth and fifth largest, etc.).  The population
> >>>of San Fran is less than a third the size of the LA suburb -- which is
> >>>still within LA city boundaries -- that I grew up in.   I guess we in LA
> >>>-- and Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, etc. -- are the little people who
> >>>pay taxes (or large restaurant bills) while you 'Friscans are right up
> >>>there with Leona Helmsley with your disdain for the rest of us 'Muricans
> >>>who pay taxes (and large restaurant bills) .  'Friscans' self-loving and
> >>>self-aggrandizing regard has revolted me from my first vist to the city in
> >>>1972.  Get over yourselves.
> >>
> >>It won't happen.  I'm L.A. born and reared, and I lived
> >>in the S.F. area from 1982-84, and again in 1987-88,
> >>and a few months in 1990.  You couldn't create a more
> >>self-absorbed, self-important, unwarrantedly snobbish
> >>group of people than Friscans (always use 'Frisco' and
> >>'Friscans' when speaking to and about them) if Dr.
> >>Frankenstein himself helped you.
> >>
> >>The thing that most cracked me up when I was there was
> >>that S.F. was *every bit* as much a city of immigrants
> >>from other parts of the country as is L.A., but the
> >>arrivistes all tried to be more-Friscan-than-thou, and
> >>practically squealed aloud "This is the ONLY city for
> >>MEEEEEEEEEE!"  And of course, when the straight ones
> >>married and kids came along, it was WHAMMO! - straight
> >>out to Livermore or Concord or some other safe 'burb
> >>where the kiddies wouldn't have to rub shoulders in
> >>school with...well...[ahem]...ah...you know...the gooks
> >>and the Mission District spics and the Western Addition
> >>boogaloos, not to put too fine a point on it.
> >>
> >>I used to have loads of fun - Wheeeeee! - when Friscans
> >>would ask me what I was doing up there, once they
> >>learned I was from L.A., and with a straight face I'd
> >>reply, "Oh, I'm checking out some new sources of water
> >>we can steal."  No one ever laughed; dunno why.  Hey,
> >>here's a neat trick:  ask the
> >>"conservationist"/"environmentalist" community in S.F.
> >>- that is, the entire fucking population - why they
> >>didn't get behind Donald Hodel's (Sec'y of Interior,
> >>1987) proposal to tear down O'Shaughnessy Dam in the
> >>Hetch Hetchy valley, and restore the valley to its
> >>original condition; John Muir said Hetch Hetchy rivaled
> >>Yosemite for natural beauty.  Dianne Feinstein nearly
> >>went into premature menopause over that Hodel's proposal.
> >>
> >>Friscans - arrogant precious shitbags, the lot of 'em.
> >
> >
> > Post it were the light don't shine, ya fag.
> 
> You're the fudge-packer, you Frisco faggot.

That's a lot like, you ya sierra-club loving fag.
Re: Demand growing for naturally raised meats
#78
Author: Arne Adolfsen
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:15
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Golden California Girls wrote:

> la.eats, has declared a PISS on Arne's posts.  I suggest the rest of usenet
> follow suit.  The angry queer queen has nothing to do all day but vent
> venom.  Best just leave it where it lands.
>

Dear Prancing Palomino Princess, or is it SSSSSSnake Boy, or is it Bob the
Wobbly Toddler? -- your Internets (quoting your hero) pseudonyms are so hard to
keep straight (tee-hee).

Thank you.

Arne <--- real name!
adolfsen@earthlink.net < --- real email address!
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