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<wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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> Chris wrote:
> > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> > news:43265b44$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> >>
> >>Chris wrote:
> >>
> >>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> >>>news:4323ad0d$0$10631$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> >>>
> >>>>Chris wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:43226971$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Obwon wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"They won't let
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>anyone in there. You have to be FEMA-certified and I am
> >>>>>>>not," he said.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Do you have a clue why you need to be certified by FEMA?  It is so
> >
> > that
> >
> >>>>>>your actions are coordinated with others and that you understand the
> >>>>>>scope of tasks being dealt with.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>When a tragedy or disaster occurs in Arizona, trained,
> >>>>>>>skilled people are allowed to help without Federal
> >>>>>>>Emergency Management Agency certification, he said.
> >>>>>>>"But when a national disaster is in effect, federal
> >>>>>>>rules take over and FEMA would have to approve it,"
> >>>>>>>said Dudelston.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Once the storm has past, Federal agencies do get involved.  They do
> >
> > not
> >
> >>>>>>want everyone to rush down to give aid, it would create anarchy and
> >>>>>>dangerous situations.  That is the same that applies with state
agency
> >>>>>>runned efforts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"It's kind of sad people are being turned away, the
> >>>>>>>minute they go into a federal situation, they just
> >>>>>>>can't get in there," he said. "The problem is when
> >>>>>>>something like this happens - when an area is declared
> >>>>>>>a national disaster - you can't go in there. They don't
> >>>>>>>know them (trained volunteers) from Adam, so they can't
> >>>>>>>let them in," he said of federal officials.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>This statements is true of both Federal and State agencies.  To
allow
> >>>>>>everyone who wants to provide relief efforts in to a disaster zone
> >>>>>>invites disaster and poses potential hazards for not only those
being
> >>>>>>helped but to those who are doing the helping.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>These agencies have to impose control over the area so that relief
> >>>>>>efforts are coordinated and effective without putting the lives of
> >
> > those
> >
> >>>>>>helping in harms way.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>MRC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Yeah, great way to coordinate help, by denying it to anyone....well
at
> >>>
> >>>least
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>it was coordinated denial...kinda like the current administration...
> >>>>
> >>>>You have no clue as to what it takes to coordinate a relief operation
do
> >>>>you or any type of operation involving personnel and supplies.
> >>>>
> >>>>Your vapid response is proof of your ignorance.
> >>>>
> >>>>MRC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>And your insistance to wait until everything is perfect before doing
> >>>anything is proof that you haven't got a clue. There are always
problems
> >
> > in
> >
> >>>a relief effort, you solve them as they come up while still providing
> >
> > some
> >
> >>>kind of help, you don't wait on the sidelines hoping to get all your
> >
> > ducks
> >
> >>>in a row...it will never happen and you are just wasting time and lives
> >>>while trying. Don't be so stupid all of your life...
> >>>
> >>
> >>No, I do not say wait until everything is perfect but you can not allow
> >>just every joe into the area to help.  There are state and federal
> >>agencies that can help and do it well.  If you look back on this
> >>situation this operation went well on the federal side of things when
> >>you compare it to other Cat 4 or 5 hurricanes.  The Feds responded
> >>quicker when compared to Hugo and Andrew (other cat 4 and 5 hurricanes).
> >>  The Red Cross counld not do anything since they were blocked by State
> >>officials (i,e. troopers snd Guardsmen)
> >>
> >>MRC
> >
> >
> > When people are dying you let in the devil himself if need be to ease
their
> > suffering. FUCK protocol and start saving lives you heartless
bastard....
>
>
> It is not protocol, it is using time, material and personnel wisely to
> effectively help the most people.  Your emotional response shows that
> you would be a walking disaster if allowed to do relief operations.
>
> MRC

And you lack of emotion when people are dying just shows that you are just
like your stupid president with his lack of concern for anybody but his
cronies...