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Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory

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From: Chris
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:26
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"George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BF4AF6FB.2824B%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
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>
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> On 9/11/05 11:52 PM, in article 43250a9f_3@newsfeed.slurp.net, "Chris"
> <vscooter@nospam.copper.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:BF49BD0E.2812E%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/11/05 1:33 AM, in article
4323b377$0$10631$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org,
> >> "wrcowan1@hal-pc.org" <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Chris wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> >>>> news:432270c5$0$10628$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chris wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:43210d1d$0$10630$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Chris wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Chris" <vscooter@nospam.copper.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:43207e46_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Obwon" <obllOob@att.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> news:ucq0i1tvt9hhi01hgbp3sag7koenev86lc@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Please Phil, there were offers of help pouring in from
> >>>>>>>>>> all over the world.  Bush kept them out by refusing
> >>>>>>>>>> aid.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You are wrong, Foriegn aid is being accepted.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> There was plenty of food and water in NO, it was
> >>>>>>>>>> in the stores that had been abandoned.  Obviously there
> >>>>>>>>>> was a plan...   To see to it that as many people would
> >>>>>>>>>> die as could be killed by benevolent neglect.  Everyone
> >>>>>>>>>> was working hard to keep aid,  food and water from
> >>>>>>>>>> coming in.  Or do you somehow believe that it takes
> >>>>>>>>>> three days to drive trucks from Texas and Fla to NO?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Govenor of the state of Louisiana blocked food and supplies
from
> >>>>>>> reaching people trapped at the New Orleans Convention Center and
the
> >>>>>>> Louisiana Superdome.  Those were supplies had locally.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now as to getting trucks in from Texas and Fla, the roads were not
> >>>>>>> passable.  It takes to to map and safe route for convoys to
travel.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yeah, it is funny how kids could steal school busses to get
people
> > out
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the government couldn't get military trucks in for three
> >>>>
> >>>> days.....those
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> must
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> be some damn powerful busses. Oops, I ruined another one of the
> > bush
> >>>>>>>>> faithfuls arguments...damn me all to hell.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sorry to bust your bubble, but the mayor of New Orleans had
hundreds
> > of
> >>>>>>> buses available to evacuate people on.  Houston;s Metro offered to
> > send
> >>>>>>> every available bus to N.O. to help in the evacuation of the city
> > but
> >>>>>>> were turned down by the mayor.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As for the kid who stole a bus, the question is where was he when
he
> >>>>>>> found the bus and where were the people he picked up located?
Could
> > it
> >>>>>>> be he originated from an area not as flooded ans the rest of the
> > city?
> >>>>>>> How long did it take him ot get out?  How many times did he have
to
> >>>>>>> change route?  YOu know it is easy for someone who lives in the
city
> > to
> >>>>>>> find route out.  For those who do not it is not easy to get into a
> >>>>>>> flooded city not knowing which streets are passable and which are
> > not.
> >>>>>>> It takes time to map a route that is safe and passable.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> MRC
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So you are saying there is no one from NO in the military who knows
> >>>>
> >>>> there
> >>>>
> >>>>>> way around the city? And have you heard of this new thing called
GPS
> > and
> >>>>>> satellite imaging? You could find your way around downtown Baghdad
at
> >>>>
> >>>> night
> >>>>
> >>>>>> in a snowstorm...so don't tell me they couldn't fine their way
around
> > NO
> >>>>
> >>>> in
> >>>>
> >>>>>> the daytime....
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No, I am not saying that but the majority of the Guard units brought
> > in
> >>>>> did not know the city.  This is not star trek.  Gizmos are nice but
a
> >>>>> GPS can not tell you what is passible or not.  Not all guard units
> > have
> >>>>> the latest GPS systems.  Satilite imaging is not something that
> >>>>> individual units have nor is something the Guard units are equiped
> > with.
> >>>>>  Further more Saltilite imaging does not tell you what is passiable
> >>>>> (i.e debris or water depth).  When disaster strikes, GPS and
Satelite
> >>>>> imaging  can be worthless wheter you are in Bagdad or New Orleans.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> MRC
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You don't need the latest GPS....hell the one in my truck could have
> > gotten
> >>>> me through there and it is a retail version. And sattelite imaging
can
> > tell
> >>>> you quite a bit about the waters depth...like if all you can see of a
> > hosue
> >>>> is it's roof, then the water is too deep....but if you can see the
> > hubcaps
> >>>> on a Hyundai then it is probably okay to go in there with your
$120,000
> >>>> Hummer....get real and think before you respond...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps your GPS could have and perhaps it could not.  When an area
gets
> >>> messed up it hard to tell for sure where you are even with a map (that
> >>> is basically a GPS is, a glorified map).  Satellite images can not
tell
> >>> you much about the water depth.  Who ever sold you that bill of goods
is
> >>> laugh his but off all the way to the bank.  If the water is halfway up
a
> >>> building it is too high to pass satelite immaging available to you and
> >>> us and hte grunts in the field if the are ven equipt with that device
> >>> are not real time and are not high resolution.  Those are directed to
op
> >>> centers not real time in the field.
> >>>
> >>> Clearly you have no clue as to the uses, capabilities and limitiations
> >>> of satelite imaging.  You must be using Google maps too much.
> >>>
> >>> MRC
> >> Scooter thinks there are no clouds over the city and he also thinks IR
can
> >> see through water vapor as well. Don't disillusion him...
> >
> > And scurby kerby thinks that on a clear day all you can see are
> > liberals....try using your head as something other that a vaccum storage
> > medium...
> >
> That's ALL you got?!? A vacuum cleaner reference? Whoo Boy, you are EASY!
> You are out of your league and just can't admit you are so full of shit
when
> FACTS are presented. Run along, Scooter...

When you present some facts we will talk....and it wasn't a vacuum reference
you illiterate redneck....what does a vacuum cleaner have to do with a
vacuum storage medium?
>
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