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Article #1002Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory
From: Chris
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:26
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:26
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"George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:BF4AF6FB.2824B%ghost_topper@hotmail.com... > > > > On 9/11/05 11:52 PM, in article 43250a9f_3@newsfeed.slurp.net, "Chris" > <vscooter@nospam.copper.net> wrote: > > > > > "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:BF49BD0E.2812E%ghost_topper@hotmail.com... > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9/11/05 1:33 AM, in article 4323b377$0$10631$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org, > >> "wrcowan1@hal-pc.org" <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Chris wrote: > >>> > >>>> <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message > >>>> news:432270c5$0$10628$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org... > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Chris wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message > >>>>>> news:43210d1d$0$10630$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Chris wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> "Chris" <vscooter@nospam.copper.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>>> news:43207e46_4@newsfeed.slurp.net... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> "Obwon" <obllOob@att.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>> news:ucq0i1tvt9hhi01hgbp3sag7koenev86lc@4ax.com... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Please Phil, there were offers of help pouring in from > >>>>>>>>>> all over the world. Bush kept them out by refusing > >>>>>>>>>> aid. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You are wrong, Foriegn aid is being accepted. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> There was plenty of food and water in NO, it was > >>>>>>>>>> in the stores that had been abandoned. Obviously there > >>>>>>>>>> was a plan... To see to it that as many people would > >>>>>>>>>> die as could be killed by benevolent neglect. Everyone > >>>>>>>>>> was working hard to keep aid, food and water from > >>>>>>>>>> coming in. Or do you somehow believe that it takes > >>>>>>>>>> three days to drive trucks from Texas and Fla to NO? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The Govenor of the state of Louisiana blocked food and supplies from > >>>>>>> reaching people trapped at the New Orleans Convention Center and the > >>>>>>> Louisiana Superdome. Those were supplies had locally. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Now as to getting trucks in from Texas and Fla, the roads were not > >>>>>>> passable. It takes to to map and safe route for convoys to travel. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Yeah, it is funny how kids could steal school busses to get people > > out > >>>>>> > >>>>>> but > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> the government couldn't get military trucks in for three > >>>> > >>>> days.....those > >>>> > >>>>>>>> must > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> be some damn powerful busses. Oops, I ruined another one of the > > bush > >>>>>>>>> faithfuls arguments...damn me all to hell. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sorry to bust your bubble, but the mayor of New Orleans had hundreds > > of > >>>>>>> buses available to evacuate people on. Houston;s Metro offered to > > send > >>>>>>> every available bus to N.O. to help in the evacuation of the city > > but > >>>>>>> were turned down by the mayor. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> As for the kid who stole a bus, the question is where was he when he > >>>>>>> found the bus and where were the people he picked up located? Could > > it > >>>>>>> be he originated from an area not as flooded ans the rest of the > > city? > >>>>>>> How long did it take him ot get out? How many times did he have to > >>>>>>> change route? YOu know it is easy for someone who lives in the city > > to > >>>>>>> find route out. For those who do not it is not easy to get into a > >>>>>>> flooded city not knowing which streets are passable and which are > > not. > >>>>>>> It takes time to map a route that is safe and passable. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> MRC > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So you are saying there is no one from NO in the military who knows > >>>> > >>>> there > >>>> > >>>>>> way around the city? And have you heard of this new thing called GPS > > and > >>>>>> satellite imaging? You could find your way around downtown Baghdad at > >>>> > >>>> night > >>>> > >>>>>> in a snowstorm...so don't tell me they couldn't fine their way around > > NO > >>>> > >>>> in > >>>> > >>>>>> the daytime.... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> No, I am not saying that but the majority of the Guard units brought > > in > >>>>> did not know the city. This is not star trek. Gizmos are nice but a > >>>>> GPS can not tell you what is passible or not. Not all guard units > > have > >>>>> the latest GPS systems. Satilite imaging is not something that > >>>>> individual units have nor is something the Guard units are equiped > > with. > >>>>> Further more Saltilite imaging does not tell you what is passiable > >>>>> (i.e debris or water depth). When disaster strikes, GPS and Satelite > >>>>> imaging can be worthless wheter you are in Bagdad or New Orleans. > >>>>> > >>>>> MRC > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> You don't need the latest GPS....hell the one in my truck could have > > gotten > >>>> me through there and it is a retail version. And sattelite imaging can > > tell > >>>> you quite a bit about the waters depth...like if all you can see of a > > hosue > >>>> is it's roof, then the water is too deep....but if you can see the > > hubcaps > >>>> on a Hyundai then it is probably okay to go in there with your $120,000 > >>>> Hummer....get real and think before you respond... > >>> > >>> > >>> Perhaps your GPS could have and perhaps it could not. When an area gets > >>> messed up it hard to tell for sure where you are even with a map (that > >>> is basically a GPS is, a glorified map). Satellite images can not tell > >>> you much about the water depth. Who ever sold you that bill of goods is > >>> laugh his but off all the way to the bank. If the water is halfway up a > >>> building it is too high to pass satelite immaging available to you and > >>> us and hte grunts in the field if the are ven equipt with that device > >>> are not real time and are not high resolution. Those are directed to op > >>> centers not real time in the field. > >>> > >>> Clearly you have no clue as to the uses, capabilities and limitiations > >>> of satelite imaging. You must be using Google maps too much. > >>> > >>> MRC > >> Scooter thinks there are no clouds over the city and he also thinks IR can > >> see through water vapor as well. Don't disillusion him... > > > > And scurby kerby thinks that on a clear day all you can see are > > liberals....try using your head as something other that a vaccum storage > > medium... > > > That's ALL you got?!? A vacuum cleaner reference? Whoo Boy, you are EASY! > You are out of your league and just can't admit you are so full of shit when > FACTS are presented. Run along, Scooter... When you present some facts we will talk....and it wasn't a vacuum reference you illiterate redneck....what does a vacuum cleaner have to do with a vacuum storage medium? > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ > Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com > <><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><> >
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