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Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory

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From: Chris
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:04
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<wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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> Chris wrote:
> > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> > news:43265b71$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
> >
> >>
> >>Chris wrote:
> >>
> >>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> >>>news:4323ad10$0$10631$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Chris wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:4322710f$0$10625$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Chris wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Well considering that now the federal gubment is saying the locals
> >
> > were
> >
> >>>>>>>under water and overwhelmed themselves and they could not handle
the
> >>>>>>>evacuation....makes you wonder why they didn't step in if they knew
> >>>>>
> >>>>>this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>FIrst reason is the law.  The Federal Government can not just take
> >
> > over.
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Not according to the homeland securitydepartment...
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Read the law on Homeland security, FEMA and the National Guard.  You
> >>>>will clearly see that they can not just come and take over.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>You read it, I have already....notice the part about a national
> >
> > disaster?
> >
> >>That still does not change the fact that the federal Government can not
> >>take charge from the State and local officials.  The fact it may called
> >>a national disaster, only means that aid as spelled out under the
> >>Staaford Act comes in to play.  Read the Stafford act.
> >>
> >>Read these links as Well
> >>
> >>Louisiana State Emergency Operations Plan - 2005
> >>
> >
> >
http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/STATE%20OF%20LOUISIANA%20EOP%202005.doc
> >
> >>Southeast Louisiana Hurricane Evacuation and Sheltering Plan:
> >>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSupplement1a.pdf
> >>
> >>Southwest Louisiana Hurricane Evacuation and Sheltering Plan:
> >>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSupplement1b.pdf
> >>
> >>Shelter Plan:
> >>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSheltersupplement.pdf
> >>
> >>Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, as
> >>amended by Public Law 106-390, October 30, 2000
> >>http://www.fema.gov/library/stafact.shtm#sec501
> >>
> >>Federal Response Plan:
> >>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/frp2003.pdf
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>> The Constitution and USC stand in the way.  Inorder to have done it
> >>>>>>was to declare insurrection (which is not was going on in Lousiana).
> >
> > If
> >
> >>>>>>that was done then the Feds would have controlled the National Guard
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>>>>Federal Troops could step in.  The Second reason is reality.
> >>>>>>Insurrection was last declared during the King Riots of the 1990's
but
> >>>>>>that was only after The Govenor of California agreed to have it
done.
> >>>>>>It has been a rarely used act  If it were done what do you think the
> >>>>>>headlines would be if a govenor was pushed aside by force and troops
> >>>>>>descending on a majority Black city?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>MRC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Only two dead in NO?
> >>>>
> >>>>And your point?  YOu have failed to address the Constitutional issues
> >>>>and well as the issues of the USC.
> >>>>
> >>>>MRC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>And you have just kept spinning to try and deflect the sorry ass
> >
> > response by
> >
> >>>bushy and company....to bad it wasn't a horse show, maybe brownie could
> >
> > have
> >
> >>>done a better job with it.
> >>
> >>You still have failed to address the Constitutional issues as well as
> >>the issues dealing with the USC.  Come on do you not have anything
> >>intellegent to write on the subject?
> >>
> >>MRC
> >
> >
> > Yes I do but you seem incapable of doing anything but defending bushy
and
> > his fuckups.....so why bother....I am not going to change what you so
> > quaintly call your mind.
>
>
> Ah, so when faced with the facts you run.  YOu know what I have said is
> correct.  Otherwise you would have read them and address thesubject.  Or
> is it that the law does not matter to you.
>
> Game, Set , Match!
>
> MRC

Bullshit...the only match you have is your head and your ass. Former FEMA
employess have said that once a national disaster has been declared FEMA is
large and in charge. End, Fin, Nuff said. Just because you can't see the
truth doesn't mean it is my responsibility to educate your dumb ass...
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