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Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory

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From: Chris
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:12
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<wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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> Chris wrote:
> > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> > news:43265b18$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
> >
> >>
> >>Chris wrote:
> >>
> >>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> >>>news:4323ad07$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>People were already crapping in the street.....a few thousand more
would
> >
> > not
> >
> >>>have made much of a difference....or they might even have had a few
> >
> > porta
> >
> >>>potties to go with the relief workers....nah, they wouldn't have
thought
> >
> > of
> >
> >>>that would they.
> >>
> >>Yeah it would.  Clearly you do not know what you are talking about.  IF
> >>you did that then you are definately asking for major outbraks of
> >>disease.  To get the porta potties in you have to have a way to do so
> >>and a way to maintain them.
> >
> >
> > You are being purposefully obtuse again. If they can get military trucks
in
> > there then they can get other support vehicles in there....smarten up
> > sparky.
> >
>
> Your military trucks are not like the average civillian vehicle.  They
> can pass through water situations that civilian vehicles can not.  If
> you ask why can not the military bring them, perhaps they had better
> things to do with the assests they had.


How were the newspeople getting in there? They weren't driving military
vehicles....

>
>
> >
> >>
> >>>As for communications.....how the hell do you think they communicate in
> >
> > Iraq
> >
> >>>when they are in battle....sattelite phones perhaps...or maybe they
have
> >>>their own communications setups that travel with them....geez are you
> >
> > being
> >
> >>>purposefully obtuse or do you just not know anything?
> >>
> >>
> >>You are comparing Applesand Oranges.  Remeber the gear the military is
> >>way beter than the state and local officials have.  Secondly the troops
> >>train with theirs more often and know how to make on hte spot repairs
> >>whereas the state and local officials are generally clueless on how they
> >>operate.
> >>
> >>You apparently do not understand how the real world operates.  Things do
> >>not happen as well as you htink they should.  You forget that military
> >>operates the same way as state and local officials thereforethey shuld
> >>be able to communicate.  Do you even have a clue how many times a day
> >>communications go out with police departmetns across this nation?
> >>
> >>MRC
> >
> >
> > And do you have any clue about how many times they don't go out compared
to
> > the times they do. No system is perfect, but they do operate quite well
most
> > of the time. No one is saying that they would be perfect, but they would
> > have worked well enough to get some aid to those people trapped in
there.
> > Once again you are waiting for the perfect plan to be in place before
doing
> > anything....which is irresponsible and bullshit at it's worst.
> >
> >
>
> No, I am not waiting for the perfect plan.  They already had a good plan
> in place, they just did not follow it.  Why did civilian equipment go
> out?  Probably a multitude of reasons.  But most stem from the fact that
> they were not prepared.  It also has to do with key points in the system
> were not adequately protected.

And the lack of government preparedness is what we are talking about....
Federal as well as others...

>
> Remeber that hey had thousands of buses but faile to use them.  If they
> had they could have gotten more people out and condition in those
> shelter would not have been so bad.
>
> MRC

And who was going to drive those buses when most of the drivers had already
evacuated? Were you going to go down there and drive them out?
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