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Chris wrote:
> <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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>>Chris wrote:
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>>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>>>news:43265b4c$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>>>>Obwon wrote:
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>>>>>On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:05:04 -0700, wrcowan1@hal-pc.org
>>>>>wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>>>Obwon wrote:
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>>>>>>"They won't let
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>anyone in there. You have to be FEMA-certified and I am
>>>>>>>not," he said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you have a clue why you need to be certified by FEMA?  It is so
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> that
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>>>>>>your actions are coordinated with others and that you understand the
>>>>>>scope of tasks being dealt with.
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>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any clue as to what it means to be dying
>>>>>of dehydration in 100+ degree heat?  Do you think the
>>>>>Grim Reaper cares about your puny rules and
>>>>>regulations?  Do you think that death is reversible?
>>>>
>>>>That is nothing but emotionalism not reality.  People can survive
>>>>without water for a period of time.  No one said it is a fun time.  But
>>>>you have to think as to why are there rules and regulations.  Sure allow
>>>>people to rush in and you will have more victims.  IF you do not have
>>>>coordination then supplies are lost and misdirected.  If you do not have
>>>>those rules and regulations then you will have more deaths than you
>>>
>>>prevent.
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>>>
>>>>>What of that Naval ship just off the coast?  Do you
>>>>>think that they might have been terrorists?  Trying to
>>>>>get in to do mayhem?  You're only saying that you'd
>>>>>rather die than get a cool lifesaving drink of water
>>>>
>>>>>from someone not FEMA certified!  I'm sure you only
>>>>
>>>>>feel that way about this issue,  just as long as it
>>>>>isn't yourself who is about to die.  Whatever happened
>>>>>to those Compassionate Conservatives?
>>>>
>>>>Gee where would you put the ship? Can not dock because the shipping
>>>>lanes have not been cleared.  So now you have a ship proceed in and hit
>>>>an obstruction and it sinks.  Now you have a major problem since now the
>>>>crew needs to be rescued and you have blocked the waterways that will
>>>>take longer to clear and restore water traffic.  Sure I want them to get
>>>>help but at the same token I do not want to have a situation created
>>>>that gets more people in trouble or even dead.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It's pretty cruel to let elderly and young people die
>>>>>of thirst while you hold up lifesaving help to get
>>>>>paperwork done.  If that's compassionate conservatism,
>>>>>then it's clearly something this nation can do without,
>>>>>post haste.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It is not paperwork that was the problem.  IT was local and state
>>>>officals that held things up.  They failed to follow the emergency plans
>>>>that had written.  If they had followed them as they are required to do,
>>>>then the situation would have been better.  What would have been crueler
>>>>is having supplies going to a location that does not need them while
>>>>those who needed them did not get them since there was no one organizing
>>>>the efforts.
>>>>
>>>>MRC
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>>>
>>>Bullshit.....any supplies getting in there would have been better than
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> no
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>>>supplies because they were disorganised. If the supplies had been in
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> there
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>>>then they could have gotten them to other places if needed, or the
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> people
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>>>could have come to them. But by having no supplies there wasn't even a
>>>chance...
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>>
>>Really?  So you think it would be better to deliver 60 cases of MREs and
>>  500 gallons of water to a group of 10 people and only deliver 2 mre's
>>and 5 bottles of water of supplies to a group of 200  And you keep doing
>>that for 5 days.  Is that wise?  How many of the 200 will be alive or
>>near death when rescued?  SO sacrifice a large portion of the two
>>hundred when with proper coordination they all will get supplies.  Those
>>people at most went 4 days without supplies.  They can survive that.  If
>>the govenor had been willing to cooperate with the FEDs, the supplies
>>would have been there sooner.
>>
>>MRC
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> 
> Bullshit again....if they had gotten the materials in there first they could
> have worried about distribution then. But with nothing to distribute there
> was no way to save anyone. Let's see you go four days in 100+degree heat
> without food or water....you are as bad as the loser president.


The superdome had supplies but nobody mangaged them.  The red cross had 
supplies but they could not get them in because of the national guard 
and state troopers.  Supplies were stocked in Baton Rouge and the 
Govenor knew that but failed to act appropriately.

There wee supplies to be had at the convention center area butthey wre 
looted and squandered instead of being managed.

Secondly it was not 100 degree in New Orleans for those four days you 
suggest.

MRC