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Article #1129Re: The most frightening thing you'll read today
From: Kurtz
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:07
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:07
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"George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BF507656.1B254%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
> On 9/16/05 11:31 AM, in article
> KrCWe.1367$2J3.237@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com, "Kurtz" <the horror@HG.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/16/05 2:45 AM, in article
> >> pKuWe.2297$Op3.2154@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net, "Kurtz" <the
> > horror@HG.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Think about the implications of this: Nat'l Guard in Iraq, NorthCom
> > HERE.
> >>>
> >
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=1
> >>> 04x4790112#4790272
> >>>
> >>> This is EXTREMELY important - we must understand NorthCom, one of the
> >>> official missions of which is to administer martial law when it is
> > declared.
> >>> And it can be declared by the President for "civil unrest."
> >>>
> >>> By the way, this is why I believe one of the goals of the policies of
> > the
> >>> Administration in this disaster was to CREATE enough "civil unrest" in
> >>> protest for their blatantly racist, murderous policies that it could
be
> >>> hyped and fabricated into an excuse for widespread martial law - for
our
> > own
> >>> "protection." The more "lootersT" and scary, endlessly shown TV clips
of
> >>> angry faces, preferably dark faces, and the more likely enough people
> > would
> >>> be frightened to accept this step.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_18...
> >>>
> >>> The Bush Administration's "Enabling Act"
> >>>
> >>> January 24, 2005 Issue
> >>>
> >>> {Italicized in the original} In early December, without a word of
public
> >>> notice, the Justice Department placed on its website a lengthy
September
> > 25,
> >>> 2001 memorandum entitled "The President's Constitutional Authority to
> >>> Conduct Military Operations Against Terrorists and Nations Supporting
> > Them."
> >>> That document sets out, on behalf of the Bush administration, a
plainly
> >>> totalitarian view of presidential power.
> >>>
> >>> (snip)
> >>>
> >>> Reviewing the specific text of the Constitution, the Yoo memo makes
the
> >>> interesting discovery that "these provisions vest full control of the
> >>> military forces of the United States in the President." In fact,
> > Congress,
> >>> not the president, is authorized "To raise and support armies . To
> > provide
> >>> and maintain a navy . provide for calling forth the militia...." It is
> >>> Congress, not the president, that is given the power "To make rules
for
> > the
> >>> government and regulation of the land and naval forces...." Those
> > elements
> >>> of the militia that are "employed in the service of the United States"
> > are
> >>> to be trained "according to the discipline prescribed by Congress."
> >>>
> >>> The Yoo memo's treatment of congressional power to declare war is
> > similarly
> >>> dishonest. "During the period leading up to the Constitution's
> > ratification,
> >>> the power to initiate hostilities and to control the escalation of
> > conflict
> >>> had long been understood to rest in the hands of the executive
branch,"
> >>> claims the document. This is true only in the sense that the King of
> > Great
> >>> Britain - that government's chief executive - claimed and exercised
that
> >>> power.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Call, fax, EMail, or write your representatives TODAY! Tommorrow may
be
> > too
> >>> late!
> >
> > "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:BF50322A.28896%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
> >> If this isn't the infamous cut n' paste 'Cobra', it's his clone:
> >
> > So why don't you mount a spirited C'n'P defense?
> >
> Don't have to. Open your eyes, you brain-dead zombie.
> > Or, why can't you post your views on a bankrupt nation flirting with
Martial
> > Law?
> >
> I think not. Only in YOUR excuse for a mind.
>
> I know that the Good Guys are winning when a liberal rag like the NY Times
> compliments The President:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/16/national/nationalspecial/16react.html
Yer link didn't work, so I checked nytimes/national: I found 'Bush Tries to
rebuild Image' and 'G.O.P. Split Over Big Plans for Storm Spending'. Those
articles aren't too complimentary to ol' Hesitant Brush, so I can't imagine
what you are attempting to quote. And no mention in my cursorary skimming to
any of the issues addressed up-thread.
These scumbags(ShrubCo.) are attempting to bring to fruition YOUR greatest
fears ( during the Clinton 8 years of peace and prosperity ) of NWO with
black helicopters taking your firearms away and destroying YOUR
Constitution.
Nope, Scurvy, I just can't find any mentions of the 'Good Guys' winning,
unless you are referring to the Old School Republicans who are pissed off at
the ShrubCo. misadministration.
>
> Cobra/Kraut whattaya think of that? Your socialist hometown Pravda
> acknowledging what IS the TRUTH?!? Go ahead - start another Rant and bust
a
> few caps. Do it for The Gipper, my boy!
And the Gippers excuse for the extra-Constitutional excesses of Iran-Contra
was
" I didn't know...". I wonder what soon-to-be-uttered Bushism we will be
treated to when the truth comes a-tumblin' down?
But make no mistake about this issue: this is the crux of the matter. Bush
and his junta plans to place this nation under Martial Law ( under some
Orwellian misnomer, such as the 'National Peace and Safety Act' ), as soon
as they can find a good excuse.
What will these rabid wolverines do to escape the jaws of a steel trap? Gnaw
their own legs off? The coming Phyrric victory will affect all but an
incredibly slim slice of the political spectrum. Let's hope you are part of
that slim slice of the pie.
Then they'll " make the pie higher ".
>
>
>
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