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<wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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> Chris wrote:
> > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> > news:4328d7d6$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> >>Chris wrote:
> >>
> >>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> >>>news:43265b4c$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> >>>
> >>>>Obwon wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:05:04 -0700, wrcowan1@hal-pc.org
> >>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Obwon wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"They won't let
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>anyone in there. You have to be FEMA-certified and I am
> >>>>>>>not," he said.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Do you have a clue why you need to be certified by FEMA?  It is so
> >
> > that
> >
> >>>>>>your actions are coordinated with others and that you understand the
> >>>>>>scope of tasks being dealt with.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you have any clue as to what it means to be dying
> >>>>>of dehydration in 100+ degree heat?  Do you think the
> >>>>>Grim Reaper cares about your puny rules and
> >>>>>regulations?  Do you think that death is reversible?
> >>>>
> >>>>That is nothing but emotionalism not reality.  People can survive
> >>>>without water for a period of time.  No one said it is a fun time.
But
> >>>>you have to think as to why are there rules and regulations.  Sure
allow
> >>>>people to rush in and you will have more victims.  IF you do not have
> >>>>coordination then supplies are lost and misdirected.  If you do not
have
> >>>>those rules and regulations then you will have more deaths than you
> >>>
> >>>prevent.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>What of that Naval ship just off the coast?  Do you
> >>>>>think that they might have been terrorists?  Trying to
> >>>>>get in to do mayhem?  You're only saying that you'd
> >>>>>rather die than get a cool lifesaving drink of water
> >>>>
> >>>>>from someone not FEMA certified!  I'm sure you only
> >>>>
> >>>>>feel that way about this issue,  just as long as it
> >>>>>isn't yourself who is about to die.  Whatever happened
> >>>>>to those Compassionate Conservatives?
> >>>>
> >>>>Gee where would you put the ship? Can not dock because the shipping
> >>>>lanes have not been cleared.  So now you have a ship proceed in and
hit
> >>>>an obstruction and it sinks.  Now you have a major problem since now
the
> >>>>crew needs to be rescued and you have blocked the waterways that will
> >>>>take longer to clear and restore water traffic.  Sure I want them to
get
> >>>>help but at the same token I do not want to have a situation created
> >>>>that gets more people in trouble or even dead.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> It's pretty cruel to let elderly and young people die
> >>>>>of thirst while you hold up lifesaving help to get
> >>>>>paperwork done.  If that's compassionate conservatism,
> >>>>>then it's clearly something this nation can do without,
> >>>>>post haste.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>It is not paperwork that was the problem.  IT was local and state
> >>>>officals that held things up.  They failed to follow the emergency
plans
> >>>>that had written.  If they had followed them as they are required to
do,
> >>>>then the situation would have been better.  What would have been
crueler
> >>>>is having supplies going to a location that does not need them while
> >>>>those who needed them did not get them since there was no one
organizing
> >>>>the efforts.
> >>>>
> >>>>MRC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Bullshit.....any supplies getting in there would have been better than
> >
> > no
> >
> >>>supplies because they were disorganised. If the supplies had been in
> >
> > there
> >
> >>>then they could have gotten them to other places if needed, or the
> >
> > people
> >
> >>>could have come to them. But by having no supplies there wasn't even a
> >>>chance...
> >>
> >>
> >>Really?  So you think it would be better to deliver 60 cases of MREs and
> >>  500 gallons of water to a group of 10 people and only deliver 2 mre's
> >>and 5 bottles of water of supplies to a group of 200  And you keep doing
> >>that for 5 days.  Is that wise?  How many of the 200 will be alive or
> >>near death when rescued?  SO sacrifice a large portion of the two
> >>hundred when with proper coordination they all will get supplies.  Those
> >>people at most went 4 days without supplies.  They can survive that.  If
> >>the govenor had been willing to cooperate with the FEDs, the supplies
> >>would have been there sooner.
> >>
> >>MRC
> >
> >
> > Bullshit again....if they had gotten the materials in there first they
could
> > have worried about distribution then. But with nothing to distribute
there
> > was no way to save anyone. Let's see you go four days in 100+degree heat
> > without food or water....you are as bad as the loser president.
>
>
> The superdome had supplies but nobody mangaged them.  The red cross had
> supplies but they could not get them in because of the national guard
> and state troopers.  Supplies were stocked in Baton Rouge and the
> Govenor knew that but failed to act appropriately.
>
> There wee supplies to be had at the convention center area butthey wre
> looted and squandered instead of being managed.
>
> Secondly it was not 100 degree in New Orleans for those four days you
> suggest.
>
> MRC

oops, sorry, it was only 99 degrees, but it was a hellof a lot hotter in the
Superdome.....does that make you feel better?