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"istartedi" <comments@vrml3d.com> wrote in message news:<b41lou$hi9$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
> Ed Rhodes <edward.j.rhodes@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:HjJ7a.14666$8f7.2353@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> 
> I'm not going to respond point-by-point because this contest has been played
> out millions of times on talk radio, the TV, and groups like this.  Also,
> point-by-point gets tiring after a while.  The main thrust of my argument
> that got lost amidst all the details is that "conservative mindset" and
> "liberal mindset" are irrelevant.  What's right is right and what's wrong is
> wrong (no pun intended).

It's like a litmus test.

And it always works like this
Conservatives are always right,and liberals are consistently wrong.

The world wouldn't be in this mess if not for 8 years of liberal rule.

Clinton the liberal screwed everything up.

And now George Bush has to fix all those things,and has to put up with
liberals getting constantly underfoot.

> 
> Not that I'm a libertarian, but let me use them to illustrate my point.
> They don't use "liberal vs. conservative" in their ideology.  Instead, they
> use "statist vs. libertarian".  The result is that they support some ideas
> that would be considered "liberal" such as unrestricted immigration and
> abortion but they also support ideas that would be considered "conservative"
> such as gun rights.

Not a good example...
They're just a marginal bunch of unrealistic screwballs who waste
their tiny vote,and everyones time with their inappropriate thinking
that decent people would actually want to live in their insane anarchy
world.

 They're merely useful idiots for the liberals looney-toon agendas.

 
 
> 
> Can't resist one little point-by-point though:
> 
> >Being a "Democrat" (no matter what side of the Mason-Dixon line you're on.)
> >does not make you a liberal. The actions of liberals to enact civil rights
> >were bitterly opposed by conservatives who were both Democrat and
> >Republican.
> 
> Uh-oh... semantics.
> 
> liberal, with a little 'l', sharing the same root as "liberty", one who
> espouses the ideals of individual freedom.
> 
> Liberal, with a big 'L', commonly held to be the same as "leftist", one who
> advocates socialism, commonly associated with the Democratic party.
> 
> conservative, with a little 'c', one who opposes change, prefers the status
> quo.
> 
> Conservative, with a big 'C', one who advocates capitalism, reduction in
> government services with a corresponding reduction in taxation,
> deregulation, and (believe it or not) liberalism in the little-l sense,
> commonly associated with the Republicans and sometimes the Libertarians.
> 
> Within both the Liberal and Conservative movements there is a schism between
> holders of the ideals and holdes of the power.
> 
> Within Liberalism, for example, the anti-war faction probably resents the
> fact that so many Democrats are supporting GWB on the war.
> 
> Within Conservatism, for example, we would like to see expanded property
> rights for individuals as a form of deregulation but in practice the rules
> are more likely to be removed for corporations with lobbiests than for joe
> six-pack who wants to build a driving range on his land without being thrown
> into jail by the County (yes, that happened right here in Virginia).
> 
> At any rate, I hope you aren't just playing with semantics here... it might
> score you some wins in your high school forensics club, but beyond that it's
> pretty lame.
> 
> --$teve