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John Roberts (jroberts@nosp.ionet.net) wrote:
: Moonman Mike wrote in message <363A4635.1393@erols.com>...

: >John Roberts wrote:
: >>
: >> Moonman Mike wrote in message <3639142E.40BD@erols.com>...
: >>
: >> >Amazing how Right-Wing White Christian Republikans (or anyone)
: >> >can be anti-abortion and pro-death penalty!
: >>
: >> Not that amazing, really.  Unborn children haven't done anything to
: >> *deserve* the death penalty.
: >
: >Isn't "all life sacred"?


: No - that's a fallacy commonly promoted by secular humanists in attempts to
: muddy the waters of what is actually a pretty clear issue.

: >You mean a District Attorney has a higher moral standing than God?


: No, I mean that God's pretty specific about the death penalty in the
: ordinances that follow the "ten commandments":

: "He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death" (Ex
: 21:12)

: "If a man acts presumptuously toward his neighbor, so as to kill him
: craftily, you are to take him even from My altar, that he may die."  (Ex
: 21:14)

: "And he who strikes his father or his mother shall surely be put to death."
: (Ex 21:15)

: "And he who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his
: possession, shall surely be put to death." (Ex 21:16)

: "And he who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death."
: (Ex 21:17)

: "If an ox was previously in the habit of goring, and its owner has been
: warned, yet he does not confine it, the ox shall be stoned and its owner
: shall also be put to death." (Ex 21:29)

: "If a thief is caught while breaking in, and is struck so that he dies,
: there will be no bloodguiltiness on his account."

: "You shall not allow a sorceress to live." (Ex 22:18)

: "Whoever lies with an animal shall surely be put to death." (Ex 22:19)

: "He who sacrifices to any god, other than the Lord alone, shall be utterly
: destroyed" (Ex 22:20)

: "You shall not afflict any widow or orphan.  If you afflict him at all, and
: if he does cry out to Me, I will surely hear his cry; and my anger will be
: kindled, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall become
: widows and your children fatherless." (Ex 22:22-24)

: Of course, I fully expect that someone will probably bring up the old "but
: that's the Old Testament" argument in response, but the fact is that the Old
: Testament law still applies, and the covenant of the New Testament only
: applies to those who honestly and sincerely choose to enter into that
: covenant relationship.  Even for them, it provides only forgiveness by God,
: which is not a blanket immunity to punishment.


Actually, I was going to point out that we're being awfully slack -- there
are lots of people who have cursed their parents but are still walking
around.  We'd better fire up old sparky right quick.

I'll leave it to others to demonstrate how the New Testament law can
override the Old Testament -- Christ letting the adultress go rather than
allowing her to be stoned to death, for example.

Ted