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Re: IBM Is Importing Low Wage Employes To Avoid Paying American A Decent Wage!

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From: Elocutus, First Borg Son
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 00:00
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Rising from fathoms unknown to the minds of men, Daemon.S@emon.org
intoned (and nyc.general quaked):
>On , ElocutusOfBorg@hotmail.com (Elocutus, First Borg Son) wrote:
>
>>Rising from fathoms unknown to the minds of men,
>>rick@kana.stanford.edu intoned (and nyc.general quaked):
>>>Lost in the noise is that many immigrant medical personnel and college junior
>>>faculty are being brought in through this same visa program (easier than full
>>>green card). The better organized computer software companies are pushing some
>>>of these out of the program.
>>
>>As a white, male American-born member of the high tech industry
>>currently looking for a new job, i'd like to suggest you take your
>>pointless, racist screed somewhere where you and your
>>follically-impaired little friends can engage for what passes for
>>mental masturbation in your circle. Qualified, socially well-adjusted
>>American-born workers still have no trouble finding jobs in the
>>industry and would be unlikely to do so if the number of special skill
>>visas were raised by a factor of ten.
>>
>>--Elocutus
>
>Novice, purely code oriented programmers with little experience and
>marginal education eventually become older and wiser, so your time
>will probably come, although it may be a while, judging from the inane
>writing that you have placed here.
>
>Until then, try to restrain your uninformed, juvenile outbursts.

And try to keep your ignorant assumptions to yourself, you sad,
burnt-out old hack.  I'm a Windows developer and system integrator
with seven years' experience, two of them teaching other developers
who are just breaking into the industry.  I know about this industry
and the relative difficulty of getting a job at different levels.

Do I like the fact that I and my students have to compete for
high-tech jobs with new immigrants?  No. Do I like that they have to
compete with a flood of new computer science graduates, willing to
take US$35K a year?  No.  Your choice of focusing on immigrants belies
your motivations, not the market.  Blaming the state of the high tech
industry on immigration is like blaming global warming on cow farts.

Besides that, slowing the immigration of high tech workers in a
massively outsourced industry just makes it that much more attractive
to export the work to third-party firms in India and Russia.  That
way, there are less high-tech jobs here, a higher trade deficit, and
an exportation of the average *six* support jobs that go with every
high tech job lost.

If what you're spouting is wisdom, I'll take a pass.

--Elocutus
===
"I read over my post and it looks like 
I'm a rather violent loony." 
     --Kali on rec.music.tori-amos
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From: ElocutusOfBorg@hotmail.com (Elocutus, First Borg Son)
Subject: Re: IBM Is Importing Low Wage Employes To Avoid Paying American A Decent Wage!
Date: 1998/10/08
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