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Article #2092Re: Immigrants seeking jobs at city site are ticketed by police
From: Hank
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:54
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:54
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:29:35 GMT, "Lets Roll" <letsroll@meet-me-in-hell.com> wrote: >http://www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com/Home/Article/Params/objects/1957/default.aspx >Immigrants seeking jobs at city site are ticketed by police >Friday, February 24, 2006 > >By SAMANTHA HENRY >HERALD NEWS > > >PASSAIC >Day laborers who gather near The Home Depot on Dayton Avenue said undercover >police have been on a ticketing blitz, cracking down hard in the past >several weeks -- and they called on Mayor Samuel Rivera to find a solution. > >"This is a really serious problem, we need a place where we can be, and >where people can see us to pick us up for work," Diego Rios, a day laborer >from Peru, said in Spanish Thursday. "We beg the mayor, in the name of us >all, to come here and solve this problem. It's a city problem, but he only >sends the police to deal with it, and they just come every day to harass us >and mistreat us." > >*****Ummm.. yes, law breakers would tend to view enforcement of laws as >harassment and mistreatment, wouldn't they? "Damn, those officers stalked >me at the bank and mistreated me by putting me in handcuffs when I tried to >rob it." > >Workers said the police are violating the terms of an agreement signed by >Rivera in September 2004 which allowed them to solicit work in the area. >A spokesman for the mayor, who acknowledged undercover officers had issued >tickets recently, countered that the workers themselves have not been >respecting the agreement, which includes provisions on no littering, no >public urination and no disturbing of parents escorting children to local >schools. >*****Illegal aliens don't respect national borders or federal law and local >officials actually expect them to respect casual agreements? What a bunch >of bone heads. > >Both sides said they are willing to sit down and talk it out. Both sides >also agreed the situation is getting out of hand. > >Day worker Pedro Martinez said he was given a ticket for $258 on charges of >loitering and blocking public access. He said he was one of at least 20 >workers who had received a fine within the past two weeks. >*****And just how are the local officials planning on collecting the fines >when the illegal aliens ticketed have provided fake ID??? Kind of like the >catch and release policy along the border, where illegal aliens never appear >for their court dates? > >"They told me the second ticket will be $500, and the third time, you'll be >arrested," Martinez said in Spanish. "The mayor said we bother women, but we >do not. They've pushed us all the way to the intersection (of Dayton and >Route 21) now; we could get killed standing there. We as day laborers have >rights." >*****No, Martinez, you have no inherent rights to violate laws. > > >Martinez said he was caught in a Catch-22: ordered not to work under threat >of getting another ticket, but unable to pay the ticket unless he worked. >*****Follow the advice of the Mexican consulate in Dallas: Run for the >border before you go to jail. > >Police department spokesman Detective Andrew White did not return a phone >call for comment on the ticketing crackdown. >Keith Furlong, a spokesman for Rivera, said the mayor was aware the >situation was escalating. > >"He's very sensitive to this issue," Furlong said. "It's a big concern in >the city, it's a very diverse city, and the day laborers are part of the >culture in Passaic, but when he gets complaints of bad language or harassing >ladies, he has to take action." >*****Since when are illegal aliens hanging out on street corners soliciting >illegal employment and badgering women and children part of any American >city culture??? > >Day laborers said the recent ticketing blitz -- and undercover detectives >and uniformed police officers corralling them further down Dayton Avenue in >Msgr. Romanak Plaza, which is enclosed by a high fence in a zone where cars >are not permitted to pull over -- was making it difficult to get work. >*****Deal with it. Times are hard. > >Furlong said in addition to letting them wait in the plaza, Rivera had given >the day workers an office on President Street to operate out of. >He said the workers had rejected the office, saying it was too far from >where contractors solicit day laborers. >*****Stomping their little feet and shaking their little fists, mojados will >not be satisfied until they are in complete control of the US? > >Furlong added that the mayor was frustrated by lack of a clear leader among >the day laborers, even as their ranks continued to grow. >"He's open to meeting with them and figuring things out," Furlong said. "But >the current situation doesn't appear to be working." >*****Things will never "work" as long as the mayor tries to accomodate law >breakers. That's kind of what the rule of law is all about. > >Day laborers countered that they've been ticketed for no reason other than >for looking to earn a day's pay to feed their families. >"We are not doing this for fun; this is the hellish reality we go through >every day," said Fabian, a 26-year-old from Mexico, who asked that his last >name not be printed for fear of retribution from the police. >*****And fear of deportation for being an illegal alien? > >"We deal with racism. With exploitation. We just want to go to work and do a >job and get paid, not get discriminated against," he said. >*****Plenty of jobs are available in Mexico, where you won't be subjected to >such harsh things as laws, Fabian. > >In a solicited statement on day laborers from The Home Depot, spokesman >Yancey Casey wrote by e-mail: "The Home Depot maintains a policy of >non-solicitation at its stores by individuals and organizations not >affiliated with our company. >******"If we ain't making a buck off of it, we don't have shelf space for >it." Sounds like if the illegal aliens would offer a percentage of their >wages to Home Depot as mordida, they would have access to the facilities. > >In the interest of safety and convenience, our policy prohibits people from >loitering or otherwise creating or causing safety risks to our associates >and customers." > >Daryn Martin, the president of the New Jersey chapter of the Association of >Community Organizations for Reform Now, who negotiated the original >agreement with the city on behalf of the day laborers, said he had received >complaints from workers in recent weeks and that he was hoping to arrange a >meeting with the mayor to work out a solution. >*****Normal people hire a lawyer when they have a beef with the government. If we had a government worth a crap these illegals would be herded to boxcars and shipped home. The penalty for illegally re-entering the USA, death. Will http://www.deportaliens.com/ Deport Aliens >
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