🚀 go-pugleaf

Your tirade has some valid points,   and i disagree with others.

I particulary agree with the point --  Privacy is an illusion
Even an anonymous remailer posting can still be traced back -- if someone
really desires to put time and effort ...
You don't have to be the NSA  (they already know who you are).

Spam can be minimized, but not eliminated.  (Opt-outs generally don't
work -- confirms email  addresses .
oh --  and www.removeyou.com  is a email harvester).
Websites can be taken down with complaints.  Especially if they are doing a
questionable activity. LARTing works.

Not everyone who has been using systems long time and from High School were
the geeks who were beaten.

The first person to help is not always out to "screw" you for the
entertainment value.

Intelligent discourse encourages different view-points  --  Non-intelligent
discourse does attract attention -- but that is about it.

The web is not the internet -- neither is usenet news -- it developed out of
UUCP  in the late 70's and early 80's and put into an RFC in '86
(see RFC 976  http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc976.txt )


You did forget one point --  the web is 99% content-free  ;)

My $.02


"xganon" <nobody@xganon.com> wrote in message
news:19003c572626c5cb8b51e0c21f67f9b7@xganon.com...
> Welcome to the Internet.
>
> No one here likes you.
>
> We're going to offend, insult, abuse, and belittle the living hell out of
> you. And when you rail against us with 'FUCK YOU YOU GEEK WIMP SKATER GOTH
> LOSER PUNK FAG BITCH!1!!', we smile to ourselves. We laugh at you because
> you don't get it. Then we turn up the heat, hoping to draw more
> entertainment from your irrational fuming.
>
> We will judge you, and we will find you unworthy. It is a trial by fire,
and
> we won't even think about turning down the flames until you finally
> understand.
>
> Some of you are smart enough to realize that, when you go online, it's
like
> entering a foreign country ... and you know better than to ignorantly fuck
> with the locals. You take the time to listen and think before speaking.
You
> learn, and by learning are gladly welcomed.
>
> For some of you, it takes a while, then one day it all dawns on you - you
> get it, and are welcomed into the fold.
>
> Some of you give up, and we breathe a sigh of relief - we didn't want you
> here anyway. And some of you just never get it. The offensively clueless
> have a special place in our hearts - as objects of ridicule. We don't like
> you, but we do love you.
>
> You will get mad. You will tell us to go to hell, and call us 'nerds' and
> 'geeks'. Don't bother ... we already know exactly what we are. And, much
> like the way hardcore rap has co-opted the word 'nigger', turning an
insult
> around on itself to become a semiserious badge of honor, so have we done.
>
> 'How dare you! I used to beat the crap out of punks like you in high
> school/college!' You may have owned the playing field because you were an
> athlete. You may have owned the student council because you were more
> popular. You may have owned the hallways and sidewalks because you were
big
> and intimidating. Well, welcome to our world.
>
> Things like athleticism, popularity, and physical prowess mean nothing
here.
> We place no value on them ... or what car you drive, the size of your bank
> account, what you do for a living or where you went to school.
>
> Allow us to introduce you to the concept of a 'meritocracy' - the closest
> thing to a form of self-government we have. In The United Meritocratic
> nation-states of the Internet, those who can do, rule. Those who wish to
> rule, learn. Everyone else watches from the stands.
>
> You may posses everything in the off-line world. We don't care. You come
to
> the Internet penniless, lacking the only thing of real value here:
> knowledge.
>
> 'Who cares? The Internet isn't real anyway!' This attitude is universally
> unacceptable. The Internet is real. Real people live behind those handles
> and screen names. Real machines allow it to exist. It's real enough to
> change government policy, real enough to feed the world's hungry, and
even,
> for some of us, real enough to earn us a paycheck. Using your own
> definition, how 'real' is your job? Your stock portfolio? Your political
> party? What is the meaning of 'real', anyway?
>
> Do I sound arrogant? Sure ... to you. Because you probably don't get it
yet.
>
> If you insist on staying, then, at the very least, follow this advice:
>
> 1) No one, ESPECIALLY YOU, will make any law respecting an establishment
of
> religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the
freedom
> of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
> assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
>
> 2) Use your brain before ever putting fingers to keys.
>
> 3) Do you want a picture of you getting anally raped by Bill Clinton while
> you're performing oral sex on a cow saved to hundreds of thousands of
> people's hard drives? No? Then don't put your fucking picture on the
> Internet. We can, will, and probably already HAVE altered it in awful
ways.
> Expect it to show up on an equally offensive website.
>
> 4) Realize that you are never, EVER going to get that, or any other,
> offensive web page taken down. Those of us who run those sites LIVE to
piss
> off people like you. Those of us who don't run those sites sometimes visit
> them just to read the hatemail from fools like you.
>
> 5) Oh, you say you're going to a lawyer? Be prepared for us to giggle with
> girlish delight, and for your lawyer to laugh in your face after he
explains
> current copyright and parody law.
>
> 6) The Web is not the Internet. Stop referring to it that way.
>
> 7) We have already received the e-mail you are about to forward to us.
Shut
> up.
>
> 8) Don't reply to spam. You are not going to be 'unsubscribed'.
>
> 9) Don't ever use the term 'cyberspace' (only William Gibson gets to say
> that, and even he hasn't really used it for two or three books now).
> Likewise, you prove yourself a marketing-hype victim if you ever use the
> term 'surfing'.
>
> 10) With one or two notable exceptions, chat rooms will not get you laid.
>
> 11) It's a hoax, not a virus warning.
>
> 12) The internet is made up of thousands of computers, all connected but
> owned by different people. Learn how to use *your* computer before
> attempting to connect it to someone else's.
>
> 13) The first person who offers to help you is really just trying to fuck
> with you for entertainment. So is the second. And the third. And me.
>
> 14) Never insult someone who's been active in any group longer than you
> have. You may as well paint a damn target on your back.
>
> 15) Never get comfortable and arrogant behind your supposed mask of
> anonymity. Don't be surprised when your name, address, and home phone
number
> get thrown back in your smug face. Hell, some of us will snail-mail you a
> printed satellite photograph of your house to drive the point home.
Realize
> that you are powerless if this happens ... it's all public information,
and
> information is our stock and trade.
>
> 16) No one thinks you are as cool as you think you are.
>
> 17) You aren't going to win any argument that you start.
>
> 18) If you're on AOL, don't worry about anything I've said here. You're
> already a fucking laughing stock, and there's no hope for you.
>
> 19) If you can't take a joke, immediately sell your computer to someone
who
> can. RIGHT NOW.
>
> Pissed off? It's the TRUTH, not these words, that hurts your feelings.
Don't
> ever even pretend like I've gone & hurt them.
>
> We don't like you. We don't want you here. We never will. Save us all the
> trouble and go away.
>
>
>
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