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Article #3Re: Need moving company recommendations
From: Roy Smith
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1992 18:51
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1992 18:51
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A month or so ago, I asked for recommendations on moving companies for my move from Brooklyn to City Island in the Bronx. Thanks to the various folks that responded. We ended up going with Rainbow Movers, as recommended by Jan Edler, and were very happy with the service we got. I recommend Rainbow (19 Leonard St, NYC, 212-431-8550, DOT #1747) highly to anybody looking for a moving company. Leonard Sass (the owner, I believe) came to our apartment to see what had to be moved and give us an estimate. He was reluctant to give us a flat rate (what the DOT calls a "Binding Estimate), but after we recounted our horror stories of the last move, he did agree to put a reasonable cap on the number of hours we would be billed for (barring unforseen disasters). We checked with the NYS DOT and found that they had only 1 complaint registered against them in the past year and a half. Many of the other companies we checked out (the ones with the full page ads in the Yellow Pages) and dozens of complaints. Of course, it's hard to normalize the number of complaints to the number of moves the company does but all things considered, 1 is better than 30. The truck showed up right on time on moving day, the guys on the truck were smart, friendly, and amazingly fast and hard workers, and got everything loaded up in just about the amount of time Leonard had estimated it would take. At the other end, we ran into a problem that was not the fault of Rainbow: the elevator broke down. This was the sort of thing that made the cap no longer valid, but as it turned out, even with the guys carrying everything up 3 flights of stairs on their backs, it didn't take too much longer than the estimate (another hour or so). Nothing got lost or broken (we've still got some boxes to unpack, but we've already unpacked the fragle stuff like the china and glass) and the charges we had for packing materials and boxes were quite reasonable (we did most of the packing ourselves, but left a few large, fragile, or awkward items for them). Some general stuff I found out: It's cheaper (at least with some companies) to move in the middle of the month. Everybody wants to move near the end or beginning of the month (we did) and some places give you a substantially lower rate if you move between about the 7th and 20th of the month. You have more stuff than you think (corollary: you will need more boxes than you possibly imagined you would, and it will take longer than you thought to pack them). Call lots of movers and get real, written, estimates, preferably a "binding estimate", flat rate, or some sort of cap. If an estimator won't come to your home to see what the job entails, call somebody else. If you get what seems like a low hourly rate (we saw anywhere from $66/hr to $114/hr), find out why it's so low. A typical crew seems to be 3 men and a truck for about $90/hr; you may do better with 4 men at a higher hourly rate since it will take less time to load and unload. Remember, though, you're paying for the 4th guy for all the time he's not working (like getting to and from the job, and in transit between your old and new place). Check out every company you consider with the NY State Department of Transportation (718-482-4810). The DOT folks there were extremely friendly and willing to give me info on as many companies as I wanted to ask about. Unfortunately, they don't seem to be allowed to just give you a list of companies that don't have any complaints about; you have to keep feeding them company names. Ask the company for their DOT number; you may need this for the DOT to find their file. If they won't give you their DOT number (or claim not to have one), pass them by. We had one company (Father and Son, who actually came highly recommended by a friend who used them several times) which not only wouldn't send an estimator or give us a written estimate, but wouldn't give us their DOT number and wouldn't even tell me where their offices were located. F&S then actually called us up the day before the move to "confirm" the appointment tommorow. When I told them that we wern't using them, the woman got upset, and said "well, when did you plan on telling us?" I pointed out that I had only called them to get an estimate and hadn't signed a contract, or given them a deposit, or anything. Talk to the movers about things like insurance. Are you covered if they lose or break something? If it just falls off the truck? If the truck gets hijacked? You may only be covered against breakage if they packed the item, but at the hourly rates they charge for packing, it may be worth the risk to just pack it yourself. Ask for references. If they won't give you references, call somebody else. In general, if anything seems sleezy about the company, just try somebody else. There are so many moving companies out there, you can be picky about who you use, and should be. -- roy@wombat.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) Public Health Research Institute 455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016, USA "This never happened to Bart Simpson."
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Newsgroups: nyc.general Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!europa.asd.contel.com!news.ans.net!cmcl2!phri!alanine.phri.nyu.edu!roy From: roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) Subject: Re: Need moving company recommendations Message-ID: <1992Aug6.185147.2251@phri.nyu.edu> Sender: news@phri.nyu.edu (News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: alanine.phri.nyu.edu Organization: Public Health Research Institute, New York Distribution: nyc Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1992 18:51:47 GMT Lines: 87