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Article #396Re: Hillary: Losing Again
From: Doug Reese
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:53
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:53
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tom spillman wrote: > rms1@my-deja.com wrote: > >>JT, Jeffrey is forever going to believe his delusional impression of > >>the swift boat vets. > > > > > > No, you see, it goes like this: Jeffrey, as a thinking person, is never > > going to believe YOUR delusional impression of the swiftboat vets, who > > lied about Kerry. Thought you should know. > > > I agree that they may have gone a bit overboard in their dislike for the > self-aggrandizing Kerry. However, NO ONE can doubt that his testimony > before Congress was anything but treasonable. I remember seeing it at > the time. As I understand it, few if any of the Swift Boat vets were on > his boat, but they always operated in close proximity of each other, > i.e., close enough to see what was going on in his boat. Pretty much correct Tom. When the Swifts went out, it was typically 3-4-5 boats. For the incident where Kerry received the Bronze Star, for example, there were five Swift Boats. And out of the 30 Swiftees and two Special Forces guys there that day, there were just four who disputed Kerry's version of what happened. 35 years later, 4 out of 32 said it happened differently from what Kerry said happened. Doug Reese > However, even discounting that entirely, his behavior before congress > was enough to prevent me from even thinking about voting for him. His > behavior was completely inexcusable. > > FWIW, I served four years on active duty in the Navy (six more in the > reserves), I have 50% more time in a combat zone than Kerry (Korean > War), 35+ combat patrols in a Navy P2V patrol bomber (my squadron lost > three of 12 aircraft and we lost 16 men), and I have a few modest > decorations and medals. BTW, I had my Honorable Discharge at the time I > left the Navy. Why did it take Kerry so long to get his? He still > hasn't released his records. Does he have something to hide? > > I am not making any claims of heroism, we were just doing our jobs. > These statements are just to short-circuit the usual claims about "How > do you know what it's like?" or "why aren't you in the service?" > > I know what it's like... > > Regards... > > Tom
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