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Article #407Re: Hillary: Losing Again
From: Mike Smith
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:34
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:34
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On 27 Aug 2005 15:26:52 -0700, "Doug Reese" <dreese@erols.com> wrote:
>Mike Smith wrote:
>> On 23 Aug 2005 17:53:46 -0700, "Doug Reese" <dreese@erols.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >tom spillman wrote:
>> >> rms1@my-deja.com wrote:
>> >> >>JT, Jeffrey is forever going to believe his delusional impression of
>> >> >>the swift boat vets.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > No, you see, it goes like this: Jeffrey, as a thinking person, is never
>> >> > going to believe YOUR delusional impression of the swiftboat vets, who
>> >> > lied about Kerry. Thought you should know.
>> >> >
>> >> I agree that they may have gone a bit overboard in their dislike for the
>> >> self-aggrandizing Kerry. However, NO ONE can doubt that his testimony
>> >> before Congress was anything but treasonable. I remember seeing it at
>> >> the time. As I understand it, few if any of the Swift Boat vets were on
>> >> his boat, but they always operated in close proximity of each other,
>> >> i.e., close enough to see what was going on in his boat.
>> >
>> >Pretty much correct Tom. When the Swifts went out, it was typically
>> >3-4-5 boats. For the incident where Kerry received the Bronze Star, for
>> >example, there were five Swift Boats.
>> >
>> >And out of the 30 Swiftees and two Special Forces guys there that day,
>> >there were just four who disputed Kerry's version of what happened. 35
>> >years later, 4 out of 32 said it happened differently from what Kerry
>> >said happened.
>> >
>> >Doug Reese
>> >
>>
>> And what did the other 28 say? Is their silence deafening? Or did the
>> other 28 actually comment on his actions over the last several years?
>
>Some have commented -- Kerry's crew, of course, and Jim Rassmann, the
>guy Kerry pulled out of the river.
>
>Then there were several people on other boats who backed-up Kerry's
>story, including another officer.
>
>The private investigator tried to find other people who would dispute
>what Kerry said, but those four (Thurlow, Chenowith, Pease and Van
>O'Dell) were it.
>
>Many have chosen to stay silent.
I believe those 4, based on Kerry's history. They seem normal; Kerry
seems extremely self-centered and snobbish, and he is a known/proven
liar.
>
>> {liberals are notorious for omitting facts that refute their rants}
>
>Actually, that award in this case goes to the Swift Boat Veterans for
>"truth". The facts that they have omitted in Unfit for Command are so
>numerous it would take another book to list them all.
Such as? {yes, you should have at least posted one or two examples,
instead of what you did post}
>
>Example -- for the Silver Star incident, none out of about 25-26
>present have disputed what Kerry said.
>
>Doug Reese
OK, where did the Swift Boat Vets dispute his silver star?
{This is what I mean about intentionally deceptive liberals}
Here's a link for you to scan. It has their topics of discussion about
Kerry.:
http://horse.he.net/~swiftpow/index.php?topic=Latest
Mike Smith
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