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Re: Hillary: Losing Again

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From: Doug Reese
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 22:26
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Mike Smith wrote:
> On 23 Aug 2005 17:53:46 -0700, "Doug Reese" <dreese@erols.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >tom spillman wrote:
> >> rms1@my-deja.com wrote:
> >> >>JT, Jeffrey is forever going to believe his delusional impression of
> >> >>the swift boat vets.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > No, you see, it goes like this: Jeffrey, as a thinking person, is never
> >> > going to believe YOUR delusional impression of the swiftboat vets, who
> >> > lied about Kerry.  Thought you should know.
> >> >
> >> I agree that they may have gone a bit overboard in their dislike for the
> >> self-aggrandizing Kerry.  However, NO ONE can doubt that his testimony
> >> before Congress was anything but treasonable.  I remember seeing it at
> >> the time. As I understand it, few if any of the Swift Boat vets were on
> >> his boat, but they always operated in close proximity of each other,
> >> i.e., close enough to see what was going on in his boat.
> >
> >Pretty much correct Tom. When the Swifts went out, it was typically
> >3-4-5 boats. For the incident where Kerry received the Bronze Star, for
> >example, there were five Swift Boats.
> >
> >And out of the 30 Swiftees and two Special Forces guys there that day,
> >there were just four who disputed Kerry's version of what happened. 35
> >years later, 4 out of 32 said it happened differently from what Kerry
> >said happened.
> >
> >Doug Reese
> >
>
> And what did the other 28 say? Is their silence deafening? Or did the
> other 28 actually comment on his actions over the last several years?

Some have commented -- Kerry's crew, of course, and Jim Rassmann, the
guy Kerry pulled out of the river.

Then there were several people on other boats who backed-up Kerry's
story, including another officer.

The private investigator tried to find other people who would dispute
what Kerry said, but those four (Thurlow, Chenowith, Pease and Van
O'Dell) were it.

Many have chosen to stay silent.

> {liberals are notorious for omitting facts that refute their rants}

Actually, that award in this case goes to the Swift Boat Veterans for
"truth". The facts that they have omitted in Unfit for Command are so
numerous it would take another book to list them all.

Example -- for the Silver Star incident, none out of about 25-26
present have disputed what Kerry said.

Doug Reese
 
> Mike Smith
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