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Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory

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From: wrcowan1
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:05
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Kurtz wrote:
> <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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>>Kurtz wrote:
>>
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>>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>>>news:431fafbb$0$10629$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>>>
>>>>Kurtz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>>>>>news:431dd7cc$0$10627$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike is just upset that Bush wasn't down there from day one,
>>>>>>>>personally throwing sandbags on the levee.  Anything less than that
>>>>>>>>isn't enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'd've settled for military assistance arriving sooner than 4 days
>>>
>>>after
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>the hurricane.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Govenor of Lousiana is at fault for that.  She is the one who is
>>>>>>incontrol of the National Guard.  She only activated 2,000 members
> 
> with
> 
>>>>>>thousands more available.  It was not until the 31st of august did the
>>>>>>Govenor ask for more troops from the Guard.  On September 1st the
> 
> Guard
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>>>>>>sends in an additional 30,000 troops to the area.  On September 3rd
> 
> the
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>>>>>>guard send 10,000 more troops and the guard and the Govenor asks for
>>>>>>some regular army troops in which 7,200 are dispatched to the area.
> 
> Now
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>>>>>>you have more than 40,000 troops at hand.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Regurgitate that Rovecum, clueless one.We've been hosed, and you don't
>>>
>>>even
>>>
>>>
>>>>>sense it.....sad. Enjoy the end of America, as you know it.( that is,
>>>
>>>UNLESS
>>>
>>>
>>>>>you sycophants get a discount on your gas, food, and drugs...but Rush
> 
> is
> 
>>>>>still free on your radio: Enjoy....)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>More trash from the delusional.  Is that all you got when confronted
>>>>with the truth.
>>>>
>>>>Game set Match...you lose
>>>
>>>
>>>Man, I am soooo sorry to have to break this to you, but....You really
> 
> need
> 
>>>to rethink what you pounded out on your keyboard. People might think
> 
> that
> 
>>>you are....well....
>>>stupid. Not that I think you are stupid, but more 'misguided', or
> 
> perhaps
> 
>>>brainwashed by our lovable misadministration...( so, where DO you get
> 
> your
> 
>>>gas and groceries? I might even consider claiming to be a BushBot in
>>>exchange for a little break on the escalating costs of living in the
> 
> modern
> 
>>>'ownership' society...)
>>>This match isn't over, and you need to check the score a wee bit more
>>>carefully.
>>>
>>
>>Thats right it is Game Set Stomp!, You still lose!
>>
>>I presented information.  You respond with ramblings totally off topic.
> 
> So suck on this ....
> FEMA's Blocking
> Relief Efforts -
> An Amazing List
> 9-8-5
> 

Not so amazaing fact list.  Many of hte titles you places on these 
stories are at best very misleading or out right lies.  Did you even 
bother to read any of these articles or did you just cut ant past from 
one of the various websites that had this very list posted?


> 
> FEMA won't accept Amtrak's help in evacuations
> http://news.ft.com/cms/s/84aa35cc-1da8-11da-b40b-00000e ..

Rail was shut down in the area and could not be reopened until the rail 
lines and bridges can be checked.  That is direct from a railyard 
operator here in Houston.

> 
> FEMA turns away experienced firefighters
> http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/5/105538/7048
> 
> FEMA turns back Wal-Mart supply trucks
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspec ..
> 
> FEMA prevents Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuel
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspec ..

Do you even think about these issues before you cite them?  Do you think 
it is wise you allow anyone and everyone access to a disaster zone that 
is not secure or safe?  I know we want them in to help those who need 
help but in a situation such as this it becomes an all to common 
occurance that the helpers soon be come the ones needing help.  This 
would further drain resources to help those who need it the most.

With supplies, where do you put it all?  You have to plan out logistics 
or else supplies are lost and wasted.

Use some common sense instead of knee-jerk reactions.

> 
> FEMA won't let Red Cross deliver food
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05246/565143.stm
> 

In the link that you cite, "Right now access is controlled by the 
National Guard and local authorities".  FEMA had nothing to do with that.

> FEMA bars morticians from entering New Orleans
> http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15147862&BRD= ...

In the article you cite a quote from it sums up why people are turned away

" you can't go in there. They don't know them (trained volunteers) from 
Adam, so they can't let them in," he said of federal officials."


> 
> FEMA blocks 500-boat citizen flotilla from delivering aid
> http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/3/171718/0826

Hmmm, you do not see anything inheritly dangerous in this?  If problems 
would have occured then resources ,like the Coast Guard" would have to 
be diverted to handle the situation.

> 
> FEMA fails to utilize Navy ship with 600-bed hospital on board
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0509 ..

Do you realize the enormaity of the whole operation?  With the tons of 
supplies, thoushands of personnel and vehicles, victims and tasks that 
just because one ships medical bay is not used is not a failure.  The 
ship was being used to house and transport supplies to Mississippi.


> 
> FEMA to Chicago: Send just one truck
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-050902dale ..

So what?  Do realize that they had hundreds of truck that were either 
there or being offered?

> 
> FEMA turns away generators
> http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html

Was not in the link.  Besides, you get them then you have to distribute 
them. You have to have fuel.  Perhaps the best use of man power at that 
time was on rescue and food supply and fuel management for emergency 
vehicles.

> 
> FEMA: "First Responders Urged Not To Respond"
> http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18470
> 
> That last one is real -- not satire but straight from FEMA's website.
> 


�The response to Hurricane Katrina must be well coordinated between 
federal, state and local officials to most effectively protect life and 
property,� Brown said. �We appreciate the willingness and generosity of 
our Nation�s first responders to deploy during disasters. But such 
efforts must be coordinated so that fire-rescue efforts are the most 
effective possible.�

> 
>>MRC
>>
>>P.S. I recieve no discount on food, gas or drugs. I work for a living
>>and am doing just fine.  Its hard work but it is good work.
> 
> 
> Jus like YOUR rezident: ' It's hard work...' I'm Soooo pround of |BOTH of
> you losers.


Compared to you on the public dole....you truly are the loser!

MRC
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