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Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory

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From: wrcowan1
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:36
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Chris wrote:

> <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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>>
>>Kurtz wrote:
>>
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>>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>>>news:431fad33$0$10628$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>>>
>>>>Kurtz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>>>>>news:431dd7c7$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Bolwerk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike is just upset that Bush wasn't down there from day one,
>>>>>>>>>personally throwing sandbags on the levee.  Anything less than that
>>>>>>>>>isn't enough.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'd've settled for military assistance arriving sooner than 4 days
>>>>>>>>after the hurricane.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If it comes down to only mere incompetence, I really can't say I'd be
>>>>>>>offended or surprised. The Bush administration has a long history of
>>>>>>>incompetence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Govenor has refused to allow the Guard to be federalized and put
>>>>>>under a unified command structure as well as hired outside consultants
>>>>>>to do relief efforts thus hampering a unifed relief effort.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I call BS.....and I smell desparation from the self-deluded.
>>>>
>>>>You can call it but the only BS is coming from you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Blanco was fighting a Hostile Corporate Takeover Attempt from ShrubCo,
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>avoid
>>>>>'the Iraq effect'. She wouldn't allow her state and its resources to be
>>>>>taken by the
>>>>>Bush Evil Empire under false pretenses. A strong woman stood up to him
>>>
>>>( ala
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Cindy ) and Shrub punished her by withholding aid. It really is that
>>>
>>>simple.
>>>
>>>
>>>>NO hostile takeover ever occured.  It was Blanco who thought it would be
>>>>cute to retain control and not use them for fear of not winning
>>>>elections.  Had she allowed them to be federalized more troops could
>>>>have come in quicker  but as a result of her delays and stalls people
>>>
>>>died.
>>>
>>>
>>>>The rest of your statement is more ofthat BS garbage to are so fond of
>>>>making up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>The blame lays with the Govenor and Mayor who failed to act according
> 
> to
> 
>>>>>>the plans that were inplace to advert such tragedy that has occurred.
>>>>>>The are the ones who acted too slowly.  The had all the federal help
> 
> at
> 
>>>>>>their disposal if that asked for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>DOUBLE BS!
>>>>>
>>>>>August 27. The White House declares State of Emergency for Hurricane
>>>
>>>Katrina
>>>
>>>
>>>>>http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/2005082...
>>>>>
>>>>>August 28. Governer Blanco of Louisana formally requests assistance
> 
> from
> 
>>>>>federal government.
>>>>>http://gov.louisiana.gov/Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pd...
>>>>>
>>>>>August 29. Hurricane Katrina makes landfall.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Where was the Govenor in ordering a mandatory evacuation?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Uh....you're not thinking too clearly: look ABOVE your response ( or I
> 
> could
> 
>>>be flippant and answer ' In her office, begging for the Federal
>>>response...' )
>>>
>>
>>No, you have failed to read the facts.  The Govenor never order a
>>mandatory evacuation prior to the hurricane.  The Govenor alread got her
>>state declared a disater area from the federal government before the
>>hurricane even struck.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Where was the
>>>
>>>
>>>>Mayor in ordering a mandatory evacuation?  Where were the busses that
>>>>the Emergency plan that the City and State worked on that were to be use
>>>>to evacuate those who had no transportation or were unable to leave the
>>>>city?  Why did the State have shelters for these people to go to as it
>>>>was planned?
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, dear....., I might be able to help you with your
>>>education/enlightenment/reality check if you would consider restating
> 
> your
> 
>>>question so that it makes sense.
>>>I've got to get on with my day. I can't spend my life leading horses to
>>>water.....
>>>
>>
>>If you could not follow the questions asked here ther are again (note I
>>did correct one left out word.
>>
>>Where was the Mayor in ordering a mandatory evacuation?
>>
>>Where were the busses that the Emergency plan that the City and State
>>worked on that were to be use to evacuate those who had no
>>transportation or were unable to leave the city?
>>
>>Why did not the State have shelters for these people to go to as it was
>>planned?
>>
>>Hope that clears it up for you.
>>
>>MRC
> 
> 
> Well considering that now the federal gubment is saying the locals were
> under water and overwhelmed themselves and they could not handle the
> evacuation....makes you wonder why they didn't step in if they knew this.
> 


FIrst reason is the law.  The Federal Government can not just take over. 
   The Constitution and USC stand in the way.  Inorder to have done it 
was to declare insurrection (which is not was going on in Lousiana).  If 
that was done then the Feds would have controlled the National Guard and 
Federal Troops could step in.  The Second reason is reality. 
Insurrection was last declared during the King Riots of the 1990's but 
that was only after The Govenor of California agreed to have it done. 
It has been a rarely used act  If it were done what do you think the 
headlines would be if a govenor was pushed aside by force and troops 
descending on a majority Black city?

MRC
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