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Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory

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From: Grumpy AuContraire
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:58
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Mike Smith wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:51:23 GMT, Peter Boyd <pbyd16@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >In 2001, after the release of a
> >National Academy of Sciences
> >report on global warming, Bush
> >said the concentration of greenhouse
> >gases has increased, in large part,
> >because of human activity,
> 
> Ummm... No he didn't. What he stated is easily found. Why didn't you
> find it? What he stated was:
> 
> "There is a natural greenhouse effect that contributes to warming.
> Greenhouse gases trap heat, and thus warm the earth because they
> prevent a significant proportion of infrared radiation from escaping
> into space. Concentration of greenhouse gases, especially CO2, have
> increased substantially since the beginning of the industrial
> revolution.  And the National Academy of Sciences indicate that the
> increase is due in large part to human activity."
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/06/20010611-2.html
> 
> Note that last sentence and who stated what....
> 
> >but he
> >emphasized that other factors could
> >have influenced warming. Referring to the
> >NAS report, he said, "We do not
> >know how much effect natural fluctuations
> >may have had on warming."
> >
> Here's exactly what he stated:
> 
> "Yet, the Academy's report tells us that we do not know how much
> effect natural fluctuations in climate may have had on warming.  We do
> not know how much our climate could, or will change in the future.  We
> do not know how fast change will occur, or even how some of our
> actions could impact it."
> 
> Were you being intentionally deceptive or just sloppy in the first
> part of your post?
> 
> Mike Smith



The fact is that global warming/cooling are cyclical and the results are
beyond the means of humans to control it just as major natural
disasters.  Hurrican Katrina is a pimple when compared to the overall
scheme of natural progression.

Here's a few things to gnaw on that humans would have absolutely no
control over and which will occur sooner or later.


� Yellowstone park contains (perhaps the most) violent potential for a
volcanic event that would significantly change world climate for years.

� Deep Atlantic seismic activity could produce a tidal wave that would
strike the east coast of the US and make that little Indonesian thang
look like chump change.

* Then of course is the "big one" (Andreas Fault adjustment) which is
already twenty years overdue and will occur during most everyone's life time.


There is nothing like bad science that feeds multiple
industries/bureaucracies to become the lifeblood of liberals being
generally ignorant and reality challenged.

Liberals...  Ya gotta luv 'em..

JT
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