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Article #839Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory
From: Chris
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 03:23
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 03:23
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<wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message news:43226972$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org... > > > Obwon wrote: > > > As the National Guard delivered food to the New Orleans > > convention center yesterday, American Red Cross > > officials said that federal emergency management > > authorities would not allow them to do the same. > > The National Guard was the one controling the roads and not FEMA. > > > > > > Other relief agencies say the area is so damaged and > > dangerous that they doubted they could conduct mass > > feeding there now. > > Could this be the reason why people who came down to help were not > allowed to do so? Off course it is the reason. > > > > > "The Homeland Security Department has requested and > > continues to request that the American Red Cross not > > come back into New Orleans," said Renita Hosler, > > spokeswoman for the Red Cross. > > > > "Right now access is controlled by the National Guard > > and local authorities. We have been at the table every > > single day [asking for access]. We cannot get into New > > Orleans against their orders." > > > > There it is the National Guard, controlled by the Govenor and not the > Federal Government, controlled access to the city. > > > > > Though frustrated, Hosler understood the reasons. The > > goal is to move people out of an uninhabitable city, > > and relief operations might keep them there. Security > > is so bad that she fears feeding stations might get > > ransacked. > > > Hmmm, another good reason to keep the masss of volunteers out. Yeah that's a good reason....why not send in troops with the food stations and help the people who were not causing trouble....you know, that 90% who just wanted to live....nice plan there georgie... > > > > > > > Obstacles in downtown New Orleans have stymied rescuers > > who got there. The Salvation Army has two of its > > officers trapped with more than 200 people -- three > > requiring dialysis -- in its own downtown building. > > They were alerted by a 30-second plea for food and > > water before the phone went dead. > > > > On Wednesday, The Salvation Army rented three boats for > > a rescue operation. They knew the situation was > > desperate, and that their own people were inside, said > > Maj. Donna Hood, associate director of development for > > the Army. > > > > "The boats couldn't get through," she said. Although > > she doesn't know the details, she believes huge debris > > and electrical wires made passage impossible. > > If boasts had trouble getting in the nvehicular traffic would have the > same trouble. Ummm...no...there were many roads that were not under water.....and tehy could have made it to the damn superdome before it became thunderdome.... > > > > > Because New Orleans remains under water, it is > > different from other cities where Katrina struck > > harder, but where relief efforts are proceeding > > normally. Agencies place workers and supplies outside > > disaster areas before storms, to move in quickly. But > > there are always delays, Burton said, because nothing > > is deployed until experts survey the damage and decide > > where to most effectively put relief services. > > > Again another reason why it took time to get any amount of supplies in > and people out. Meanwhile just let the people die until we do a "study" of what's needed....here's a free clue FOOD AND WATER!! > > > > > > > After Katrina, he thought he would have to airlift a > > feeding unit to one isolated town, but a road was > > cleared, he said. He doubts that dropping a kitchen > > into the New Orleans' poisoned waters, filled with raw > > sewage, dead bodies and possible industrial > > contaminants, would do any good. It made sense to > > prepare meals outside the area and truck them in or > > bring people out. > > Logistics is a taks that so many do not understand. If you are having > trouble feeding those who are in the city already, think about the > problems that would be encountered if you let every group that wanted to > help in? They would have problems with getting food, water, sanitation > and someplace to sleeep. Or they would have there own food...since that was what they were bringing...they could have shit in the street like everyone else....and I seriously doubt anyone would have been sleeping in the first 48 hours... > > > > MRC
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