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Re: Whither Manhattan? Wither Liberty??

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From: Scott Barman
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:43
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In article <94037@bu.edu> alpert@cs.bu.edu (Richard Alpert) writes:
>In article <=2fytf=@rpi.edu> kasprj@rpi.edu writes:
>> Anyone have a good reference for this? Are Governor's, Ellis and Liberty 
>>Islands also considered part of Manhattan Borough?
>
>Would that they were.  Summa cum dolar, I regret to inform you that Liberty
>Island is NEW JERSEY!!
>
> - Richard Alpert

Gee... youse guys have to stop reading those Jersey press releases.
When the big controversy of who owns it came up (around the time New
York changed license plates), the basis for ownership went back to the
maps kept by the US Geological Survey.  These maps have shown both
Liberty and Ellis Islands as part of New York City.  In fact, up until
the controversy, New York was collecting sales taxes on good sold on
Liberty Island.

When the controversy hit, New Jersey was not making any money from
Liberty Island.  With Ellis Island opening and the then proposed ferry
from Liberty State Park, New Jersey took this oppotunity to make a claim
on both islands.  The net results was that there would be a "sharing"
of the islands and the revnues by both states.  Neither Island is
considered part of either state as a result of the compromise (according
to USGS maps).  However, both Islands are served by New York Telephone,
the New York City water supply, and if a fire should unfortunatly break
out, the New York City fire department will be the first called after
the Coast Guard from Govenor's Island (other general services are
supplied by the National Parks Service).  HOWEVER, the quarters used by
Parks Service personnel assigned to both landmarks have been moved from
Staten Island to New Jersey.  Waste disposal (both trash and septic
tank) is handled by a New Jersey company and disposed of in New Jersey.

Drink the water and, when you are finished, leave it in New Jersey.
(make [in]appropriate comments as you wish!! :-)

-- 
scott barman			| <This space intentionally left blank>
scott@asd.com			|
 (I can barely speak for myself, you expect me to speak for my employer??)
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Subject: Re: Whither Manhattan? Wither Liberty??
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