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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:35:52 -0500, "Chris"
<vscooter@nospam.copper.net> wrote:

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><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>news:4323ad0d$0$10631$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>> Chris wrote:
>> > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>> > news:43226971$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>> >>Obwon wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  "They won't let
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>> >>>anyone in there. You have to be FEMA-certified and I am
>> >>>not," he said.
>> >>
>> >>Do you have a clue why you need to be certified by FEMA?  It is so that
>> >>your actions are coordinated with others and that you understand the
>> >>scope of tasks being dealt with.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>When a tragedy or disaster occurs in Arizona, trained,
>> >>>skilled people are allowed to help without Federal
>> >>>Emergency Management Agency certification, he said.
>> >>>"But when a national disaster is in effect, federal
>> >>>rules take over and FEMA would have to approve it,"
>> >>>said Dudelston.
>> >>
>> >>Once the storm has past, Federal agencies do get involved.  They do not
>> >>want everyone to rush down to give aid, it would create anarchy and
>> >>dangerous situations.  That is the same that applies with state agency
>> >>runned efforts.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>"It's kind of sad people are being turned away, the
>> >>>minute they go into a federal situation, they just
>> >>>can't get in there," he said. "The problem is when
>> >>>something like this happens - when an area is declared
>> >>>a national disaster - you can't go in there. They don't
>> >>>know them (trained volunteers) from Adam, so they can't
>> >>>let them in," he said of federal officials.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>This statements is true of both Federal and State agencies.  To allow
>> >>everyone who wants to provide relief efforts in to a disaster zone
>> >>invites disaster and poses potential hazards for not only those being
>> >>helped but to those who are doing the helping.
>> >>
>> >>These agencies have to impose control over the area so that relief
>> >>efforts are coordinated and effective without putting the lives of those
>> >>helping in harms way.
>> >>
>> >>MRC
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah, great way to coordinate help, by denying it to anyone....well at
>least
>> > it was coordinated denial...kinda like the current administration...
>>
>> You have no clue as to what it takes to coordinate a relief operation do
>> you or any type of operation involving personnel and supplies.
>>
>> Your vapid response is proof of your ignorance.
>>
>> MRC
>
>And your insistance to wait until everything is perfect before doing
>anything is proof that you haven't got a clue. There are always problems in
>a relief effort, you solve them as they come up while still providing some
>kind of help, you don't wait on the sidelines hoping to get all your ducks
>in a row...it will never happen and you are just wasting time and lives
>while trying. Don't be so stupid all of your life...
>

  Mistakes with paperwork and clearances are
reversible!  Deaths are not reversible!  Compassionate
Conservatives don't seem to realize the difference,  or
they don't care about human life,  if you lose it while
waiting for paperwork to get properly done so be it,
huh?  That's a really great answer about how the Bush
adm., worked this emergency, glad we're all more
clearly informed of how the Bush Adm.,  and his
appointiees demand fastidious recordkeeping and
clearances be in order before any lives can be saved.

  Keep telling the nation, you Compassionate
Conservatives,  that if we are caught in a disaster
area,  we're going to have to die,  if we can't survive
until the paperwork is done.  I'm sure the nation wants
to get behind this kind of thinking.  I'm sure the
majority is really supportive of dening women,
elderly, poor and children food,  water and medical aid
until the paperwork is tidy and in order. 

  Wonder why Bush doesn't just come right out and tell
us this?  Clearly what he believes in for the nation is
right?  So why would he let this view trickle out to
us,  instead of reaping the nations praise by stating
it emphatically in public?

  Obwon
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  Liars share with those they deceive 
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