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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:35:58 GMT, Mike Smith
<mws@wt.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:57:42 GMT, Peter Boyd <pbyd16@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Boyd wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Peter Boyd wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > snip
>>> > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > The fact is that global warming/cooling are cyclical and the results are
>>> > > > > beyond the means of humans to control it just as major natural
>>> > > > > disasters.  Hurrican Katrina is a pimple when compared to the overall
>>> > > > > scheme of natural progression.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Here's a few things to gnaw on that humans would have absolutely no
>>> > > > > control over and which will occur sooner or later.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > � Yellowstone park contains (perhaps the most) violent potential for a
>>> > > > > volcanic event that would significantly change world climate for years.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > � Deep Atlantic seismic activity could produce a tidal wave that would
>>> > > > > strike the east coast of the US and make that little Indonesian thang
>>> > > > > look like chump change.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > * Then of course is the "big one" (Andreas Fault adjustment) which is
>>> > > > > already twenty years overdue and will occur during most everyone's life time.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > And Asteroid 2004 MN4.  The asteroid
>>> > > > not only has the potential of minimizing
>>> > > > the effect of a cat 5 hurricane but may
>>> > > > eliminate the social security crisis.
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > If only it could discriminate between the stupid and bright.  But wait,
>>> > > didn't the hurricane do just that.  Seems that all the smart ones headed
>>> > > outta town.
>>> > >
>>> > > > > There is nothing like bad science that feeds multiple
>>> > > > > industries/bureaucracies to become the lifeblood of liberals being
>>> > > > > generally ignorant and reality challenged.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I don't like bad science either.  What are your
>>> > > > thoughts on evolution and intelligent design?
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > First, my initial exposure to bad science was the so called menace of
>>> > > the seas, Acanthaster Planci (Crown of Thorns) starfish that was gonna
>>> > > kill every coral reef on earth.  Turns out that all that brouhaha in the
>>> > > l970 time frame was a cyclical event.  That experience converted the
>>> > > last liberal bones in my body to that of an independent thinker.
>>> > >
>>> > > Regarding intelligent design, bah!  We came out of a soup recipe that
>>> > > just happened to perk...
>>> >
>>> > Isn't that the Liberal position?
>>> >
>>>
>>> No, not if one has worked in the sciences and is well informed.
>>>
>>> JT
>>
>>So msnbc
>>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8792302/
>>is mistaken when it implies that conservatives
>>back intelligent design.
>
>If you presume that MSNBC is wrong on everything they present as fact,
>you will be right, most of the time.
>
>Mike Smith

  Bush did agree that I.D. should be taught in schools
as an alternative theory!  Unfortunately, Intelligent
Design isn't a theory at all!  It doesn't qualify as a
credible, useful or scientific theory,  and therefore
the teaching of such a subject in schools is a complete
waste of valuable time and money.  Consider:  What
could intelligent design predict that would be
verifiable,  replicable and therefore useful?  The
answer, of course is NOTHING!!!  That makes it useless
and a waste of valuable time.  Science teaches us
things that man can do,  duplicate and use!  It also
leads us along pathways that aid in the increased
understanding of our world and the universe in ways
that allow us to perform and survive.

  Intelligent design does none of these things.  You
can study it any way you choose for as long as you
like,  and you will never find any way to produce
anything,  because not only has none of it been
observed,  none of these non existent observations will
ever be available for testing,  let alone for
replication by independant researchers.  It's just a
body of unsupportable "lore",  which the advocates hope
people will take on faith.

  Obwon
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