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Kurtz wrote:
> <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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>>Kurtz wrote:
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>>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>>>news:4323b8f1$0$10629$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> Please forgive the snip, but this is getting too long: the record of
> previous posts is still upthread......
> 
>>Perhaps but the first amendment does not give the media cart blanche to
>>go as it please -
> 
> Yes it does: a free press is essential to a well informed electorate
> 
> even when it may interfere with rescue and recovery
> 
>>efforts.
> 
> 
> They brought their own resources, and did not interfere with rescue or
> recovery.
> 

They were interfering.  They wanted to ride out with the rescurers to 
take photos.  They would be taking space up that would and could be used 
for their the relief and rescuse operations.  If they did go out that 
would be one more non-essential person outther that might get themselves 
into trouble.

The more non-essential people you have in area is more risk taken that 
should not be taken.


> 
>>No one has shut the presses down or prohibited news from being
>>reports.
> 
> 
> CNN had to resort to the courts to gain access to the recovery efforts.
> 
> Seen a wide variety of reports from the media.  Do not think
> 
>>that their abilities have been seriously hampered.
> 
> 
> Most are mouthpieces for the staus quo ( thanks to deregulation and
> consolidation into giant conglomerations under the control of a few
> Executive Producers.. Having been a line producer, I tell you that the
> management calls the shots, and the producers
> hew to that position, or they are removed. Some are aware of the fact that
> their independence has been curtailed, but ambition and the need for the
> paycheck ( as well as informal blacklisting ) tends to remove all but the
> most pliable from positions of power.
> 

Maybe all well and true but then what do you do?  Allow everyone 
whowants to report in?  That is certainly a reciepe for disaster.

> 
> 
>>>And the Second is looking pretty sickly, too!
>>
>>>Okay, and the Fourth....
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, and the tenth.....
>>>
>>>
>>>>Just what part are you complaining about?
>>>
>>>
>>>I am complaining about someone who would so vociferously defend the
>>>indefensable.
>>>
>>> Are you protesting a state
>>>
>>>
>>>>action or is it a Federal Action?
>>>
>>>
>>>I draw your attention to the armtwisting of the Governor of Louisianna
> 
> to
> 
>>>force her to relenquish control of the Guard and Police forces to the
>>>ShrubCo. cabal. She balked, and that rat bastard punished her by
> 
> withholding
> 
>>>the command to 'GO!'. So thousands more died by the hand of an evil
>>>sun-of-a-bitch and his henchmen.
>>
>>You are so ignorant.  Read the law.  The president is restricted in how
>>he can deploy federal troop.  It boils down to the Govenor giving
>>control over so that federal troops can come in or for the president to
>>remove the power from the govenor as proscribed by law.  What would you
>>prefer.  Remember you need to stay within the confines of the law.
>>
>>
>      The FEMA needed local permission BULL is blown away by their own rules
> 
>       The December 2004 National Response Plan (NRP), the federal Department
> of Homeland Security's (DHS) most recent plan for coordinated federal
> response to disasters
> http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/... , confirms the
> Red Cross' status as a "primary agency"

Either you failed to read or understand the NRP.  You should read the 
NRP itself.  The website you listed is mesleading.  The fact that the 
Red Cross has "primary agency" status does nothing more than make it act 
as a Federal Agency, which FEMA is to coordinate.  But it does not give 
it authority to trump State and Local Officials.



> http://mediamatters.org/items/200509090002#establishes
>       that will, under the oversight of FEMA and DHS, coordinate "federal
> mass care resources" to affected areas. Moreover, in a "catastrophic event,"
> such as what befell New Orleans, the NRP directs FEMA

All this means is that the Red Cross acts as a federal agency.


> http://mediamatters.org/items/200509090002#directs
>       to act on its own authority to quickly provide assistance and conduct
> emergency operations, bypassing state and local authorities if necessary.
> 

This allows the Red Cross to act with out having to ask FEMA for 
permission at every step.


>>
>>I do on a regular base do read and research a variety source of
>>information.  I know when to use filters to get at the truth but not so
>>cynical to know that it may be in plain sight.
>>
>>I also have read a great deal about ancient history and their societies.
>>  To see the lesson to be applied today.  I look to our own history to
>>see what has changed and what has not.  I see reporters not reporting
>>the news but being a part of the news.  ABC, NBC, CNN, Washington Post,
>>Houston Chronicle, theNation and even Fox News are guilty of that.  I do
>>not have a high regard for journalist anymore.  Read the paper and see
>>the trash that passes as news.  It all really \op-ed now.
> 
> 
> I am in total agreement.
> 
>>
>>It is late and that all I care to write for now.
> 
> 
> Thanks, and I now wish to offer my sincere apology to you for the slurs and
> angry allegations I have directed at you. I will now save that shit for the
> ' You MORON! '
> posters. You appear to be willing to think and argue intelligently, and it
> is this kind of discourse that will allow the nation to change the debate
> from screaming opinions and misdirection to thoughful and thought-provoking
> discussion. That is the basis for democracy.
> 
> Again, my apology for my hot-headed knee-jerk reaction to your differing
> opinions.
> 
> 
>>MRC


Not a problem.  Your last set of statements puts you head and shoulders 
above many of the posters who write and reply.  Even though you are 
wrong on thus subject, I do have respect for you.

MRC