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Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory

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From: Chris
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 04:35
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<wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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> Chris wrote:
> > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> > news:43226971$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> >>
> >>Obwon wrote:
> >>
> >>  "They won't let
> >>
> >>>anyone in there. You have to be FEMA-certified and I am
> >>>not," he said.
> >>
> >>Do you have a clue why you need to be certified by FEMA?  It is so that
> >>your actions are coordinated with others and that you understand the
> >>scope of tasks being dealt with.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>When a tragedy or disaster occurs in Arizona, trained,
> >>>skilled people are allowed to help without Federal
> >>>Emergency Management Agency certification, he said.
> >>>"But when a national disaster is in effect, federal
> >>>rules take over and FEMA would have to approve it,"
> >>>said Dudelston.
> >>
> >>Once the storm has past, Federal agencies do get involved.  They do not
> >>want everyone to rush down to give aid, it would create anarchy and
> >>dangerous situations.  That is the same that applies with state agency
> >>runned efforts.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>"It's kind of sad people are being turned away, the
> >>>minute they go into a federal situation, they just
> >>>can't get in there," he said. "The problem is when
> >>>something like this happens - when an area is declared
> >>>a national disaster - you can't go in there. They don't
> >>>know them (trained volunteers) from Adam, so they can't
> >>>let them in," he said of federal officials.
> >>>
> >>
> >>This statements is true of both Federal and State agencies.  To allow
> >>everyone who wants to provide relief efforts in to a disaster zone
> >>invites disaster and poses potential hazards for not only those being
> >>helped but to those who are doing the helping.
> >>
> >>These agencies have to impose control over the area so that relief
> >>efforts are coordinated and effective without putting the lives of those
> >>helping in harms way.
> >>
> >>MRC
> >
> >
> > Yeah, great way to coordinate help, by denying it to anyone....well at
least
> > it was coordinated denial...kinda like the current administration...
>
> You have no clue as to what it takes to coordinate a relief operation do
> you or any type of operation involving personnel and supplies.
>
> Your vapid response is proof of your ignorance.
>
> MRC

And your insistance to wait until everything is perfect before doing
anything is proof that you haven't got a clue. There are always problems in
a relief effort, you solve them as they come up while still providing some
kind of help, you don't wait on the sidelines hoping to get all your ducks
in a row...it will never happen and you are just wasting time and lives
while trying. Don't be so stupid all of your life...
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