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"George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 9/11/05 1:33 AM, in article 4323b377$0$10631$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org,
> "wrcowan1@hal-pc.org" <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote:
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> > Chris wrote:
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> >> <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> >> news:432270c5$0$10628$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> >>>
> >>> Chris wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> >>>> news:43210d1d$0$10630$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> >>>>
> >>>>> Chris wrote:
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> >>>>>> "Chris" <vscooter@nospam.copper.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:43207e46_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Obwon" <obllOob@att.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:ucq0i1tvt9hhi01hgbp3sag7koenev86lc@4ax.com...
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> >>>>>>>> Please Phil, there were offers of help pouring in from
> >>>>>>>> all over the world.  Bush kept them out by refusing
> >>>>>>>> aid.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are wrong, Foriegn aid is being accepted.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There was plenty of food and water in NO, it was
> >>>>>>>> in the stores that had been abandoned.  Obviously there
> >>>>>>>> was a plan...   To see to it that as many people would
> >>>>>>>> die as could be killed by benevolent neglect.  Everyone
> >>>>>>>> was working hard to keep aid,  food and water from
> >>>>>>>> coming in.  Or do you somehow believe that it takes
> >>>>>>>> three days to drive trucks from Texas and Fla to NO?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Govenor of the state of Louisiana blocked food and supplies from
> >>>>> reaching people trapped at the New Orleans Convention Center and the
> >>>>> Louisiana Superdome.  Those were supplies had locally.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now as to getting trucks in from Texas and Fla, the roads were not
> >>>>> passable.  It takes to to map and safe route for convoys to travel.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yeah, it is funny how kids could steal school busses to get people
out
> >>>>
> >>>> but
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> the government couldn't get military trucks in for three
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> >> days.....those
> >>
> >>>>>> must
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> be some damn powerful busses. Oops, I ruined another one of the
bush
> >>>>>>> faithfuls arguments...damn me all to hell.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Sorry to bust your bubble, but the mayor of New Orleans had hundreds
of
> >>>>> buses available to evacuate people on.  Houston;s Metro offered to
send
> >>>>> every available bus to N.O. to help in the evacuation of the city
but
> >>>>> were turned down by the mayor.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for the kid who stole a bus, the question is where was he when he
> >>>>> found the bus and where were the people he picked up located?  Could
it
> >>>>> be he originated from an area not as flooded ans the rest of the
city?
> >>>>> How long did it take him ot get out?  How many times did he have to
> >>>>> change route?  YOu know it is easy for someone who lives in the city
to
> >>>>> find route out.  For those who do not it is not easy to get into a
> >>>>> flooded city not knowing which streets are passable and which are
not.
> >>>>> It takes time to map a route that is safe and passable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> MRC
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> So you are saying there is no one from NO in the military who knows
> >>
> >> there
> >>
> >>>> way around the city? And have you heard of this new thing called GPS
and
> >>>> satellite imaging? You could find your way around downtown Baghdad at
> >>
> >> night
> >>
> >>>> in a snowstorm...so don't tell me they couldn't fine their way around
NO
> >>
> >> in
> >>
> >>>> the daytime....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> No, I am not saying that but the majority of the Guard units brought
in
> >>> did not know the city.  This is not star trek.  Gizmos are nice but a
> >>> GPS can not tell you what is passible or not.  Not all guard units
have
> >>> the latest GPS systems.  Satilite imaging is not something that
> >>> individual units have nor is something the Guard units are equiped
with.
> >>>  Further more Saltilite imaging does not tell you what is passiable
> >>> (i.e debris or water depth).  When disaster strikes, GPS and Satelite
> >>> imaging  can be worthless wheter you are in Bagdad or New Orleans.
> >>>
> >>> MRC
> >>
> >>
> >> You don't need the latest GPS....hell the one in my truck could have
gotten
> >> me through there and it is a retail version. And sattelite imaging can
tell
> >> you quite a bit about the waters depth...like if all you can see of a
hosue
> >> is it's roof, then the water is too deep....but if you can see the
hubcaps
> >> on a Hyundai then it is probably okay to go in there with your $120,000
> >> Hummer....get real and think before you respond...
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> >
> > Perhaps your GPS could have and perhaps it could not.  When an area gets
> > messed up it hard to tell for sure where you are even with a map (that
> > is basically a GPS is, a glorified map).  Satellite images can not tell
> > you much about the water depth.  Who ever sold you that bill of goods is
> > laugh his but off all the way to the bank.  If the water is halfway up a
> > building it is too high to pass satelite immaging available to you and
> > us and hte grunts in the field if the are ven equipt with that device
> > are not real time and are not high resolution.  Those are directed to op
> > centers not real time in the field.
> >
> > Clearly you have no clue as to the uses, capabilities and limitiations
> > of satelite imaging.  You must be using Google maps too much.
> >
> > MRC
> Scooter thinks there are no clouds over the city and he also thinks IR can
> see through water vapor as well. Don't disillusion him...

And scurby kerby thinks that on a clear day all you can see are
liberals....try using your head as something other that a vaccum storage
medium...

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