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Article #972Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory
From: Chris
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 06:56
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 06:56
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<wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message news:43265b71$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org... > > > Chris wrote: > > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message > > news:4323ad10$0$10631$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org... > > > >> > >>Chris wrote: > >> > >>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message > >>>news:4322710f$0$10625$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org... > >>> > >>> > >>>>Chris wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Well considering that now the federal gubment is saying the locals were > >>>>>under water and overwhelmed themselves and they could not handle the > >>>>>evacuation....makes you wonder why they didn't step in if they knew > >>> > >>>this. > >>> > >>> > >>>>FIrst reason is the law. The Federal Government can not just take over. > >>> > >>> > >>>Not according to the homeland securitydepartment... > >>> > >> > >>Read the law on Homeland security, FEMA and the National Guard. You > >>will clearly see that they can not just come and take over. > > > > > > You read it, I have already....notice the part about a national disaster? > > > > That still does not change the fact that the federal Government can not > take charge from the State and local officials. The fact it may called > a national disaster, only means that aid as spelled out under the > Staaford Act comes in to play. Read the Stafford act. > > Read these links as Well > > Louisiana State Emergency Operations Plan - 2005 > http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/STATE%20OF%20LOUISIANA%20EOP%202005.doc > > Southeast Louisiana Hurricane Evacuation and Sheltering Plan: > http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSupplement1a.pdf > > Southwest Louisiana Hurricane Evacuation and Sheltering Plan: > http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSupplement1b.pdf > > Shelter Plan: > http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSheltersupplement.pdf > > Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, as > amended by Public Law 106-390, October 30, 2000 > http://www.fema.gov/library/stafact.shtm#sec501 > > Federal Response Plan: > http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/frp2003.pdf > > > > >>>> The Constitution and USC stand in the way. Inorder to have done it > >>>>was to declare insurrection (which is not was going on in Lousiana). If > >>>>that was done then the Feds would have controlled the National Guard and > >>>>Federal Troops could step in. The Second reason is reality. > >>>>Insurrection was last declared during the King Riots of the 1990's but > >>>>that was only after The Govenor of California agreed to have it done. > >>>>It has been a rarely used act If it were done what do you think the > >>>>headlines would be if a govenor was pushed aside by force and troops > >>>>descending on a majority Black city? > >>>> > >>>>MRC > >>> > >>> > >>>Only two dead in NO? > >> > >>And your point? YOu have failed to address the Constitutional issues > >>and well as the issues of the USC. > >> > >>MRC > > > > > > And you have just kept spinning to try and deflect the sorry ass response by > > bushy and company....to bad it wasn't a horse show, maybe brownie could have > > done a better job with it. > > You still have failed to address the Constitutional issues as well as > the issues dealing with the USC. Come on do you not have anything > intellegent to write on the subject? > > MRC Yes I do but you seem incapable of doing anything but defending bushy and his fuckups.....so why bother....I am not going to change what you so quaintly call your mind.
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