🚀 go-pugleaf

<wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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> Chris wrote:
> > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> > news:4323ad0d$0$10631$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> >>Chris wrote:
> >>
> >>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> >>>news:43226971$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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> >>>
> >>>>Obwon wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "They won't let
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>anyone in there. You have to be FEMA-certified and I am
> >>>>>not," he said.
> >>>>
> >>>>Do you have a clue why you need to be certified by FEMA?  It is so
that
> >>>>your actions are coordinated with others and that you understand the
> >>>>scope of tasks being dealt with.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>When a tragedy or disaster occurs in Arizona, trained,
> >>>>>skilled people are allowed to help without Federal
> >>>>>Emergency Management Agency certification, he said.
> >>>>>"But when a national disaster is in effect, federal
> >>>>>rules take over and FEMA would have to approve it,"
> >>>>>said Dudelston.
> >>>>
> >>>>Once the storm has past, Federal agencies do get involved.  They do
not
> >>>>want everyone to rush down to give aid, it would create anarchy and
> >>>>dangerous situations.  That is the same that applies with state agency
> >>>>runned efforts.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>"It's kind of sad people are being turned away, the
> >>>>>minute they go into a federal situation, they just
> >>>>>can't get in there," he said. "The problem is when
> >>>>>something like this happens - when an area is declared
> >>>>>a national disaster - you can't go in there. They don't
> >>>>>know them (trained volunteers) from Adam, so they can't
> >>>>>let them in," he said of federal officials.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>This statements is true of both Federal and State agencies.  To allow
> >>>>everyone who wants to provide relief efforts in to a disaster zone
> >>>>invites disaster and poses potential hazards for not only those being
> >>>>helped but to those who are doing the helping.
> >>>>
> >>>>These agencies have to impose control over the area so that relief
> >>>>efforts are coordinated and effective without putting the lives of
those
> >>>>helping in harms way.
> >>>>
> >>>>MRC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Yeah, great way to coordinate help, by denying it to anyone....well at
> >
> > least
> >
> >>>it was coordinated denial...kinda like the current administration...
> >>
> >>You have no clue as to what it takes to coordinate a relief operation do
> >>you or any type of operation involving personnel and supplies.
> >>
> >>Your vapid response is proof of your ignorance.
> >>
> >>MRC
> >
> >
> > And your insistance to wait until everything is perfect before doing
> > anything is proof that you haven't got a clue. There are always problems
in
> > a relief effort, you solve them as they come up while still providing
some
> > kind of help, you don't wait on the sidelines hoping to get all your
ducks
> > in a row...it will never happen and you are just wasting time and lives
> > while trying. Don't be so stupid all of your life...
> >
>
> No, I do not say wait until everything is perfect but you can not allow
> just every joe into the area to help.  There are state and federal
> agencies that can help and do it well.  If you look back on this
> situation this operation went well on the federal side of things when
> you compare it to other Cat 4 or 5 hurricanes.  The Feds responded
> quicker when compared to Hugo and Andrew (other cat 4 and 5 hurricanes).
>   The Red Cross counld not do anything since they were blocked by State
> officials (i,e. troopers snd Guardsmen)
>
> MRC

When people are dying you let in the devil himself if need be to ease their
suffering. FUCK protocol and start saving lives you heartless bastard....