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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:09:19 -0500, "Chris"
<vscooter@nospam.copper.net> wrote:

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><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>news:43265b4c$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>>
>> Obwon wrote:
>> > On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:05:04 -0700, wrcowan1@hal-pc.org
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>Obwon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "They won't let
>> >>
>> >>>anyone in there. You have to be FEMA-certified and I am
>> >>>not," he said.
>> >>
>> >>Do you have a clue why you need to be certified by FEMA?  It is so that
>> >>your actions are coordinated with others and that you understand the
>> >>scope of tasks being dealt with.
>> >>
>> >
>> >   Do you have any clue as to what it means to be dying
>> > of dehydration in 100+ degree heat?  Do you think the
>> > Grim Reaper cares about your puny rules and
>> > regulations?  Do you think that death is reversible?
>>
>> That is nothing but emotionalism not reality.  People can survive
>> without water for a period of time.  No one said it is a fun time.  But
>> you have to think as to why are there rules and regulations.  Sure allow
>> people to rush in and you will have more victims.  IF you do not have
>> coordination then supplies are lost and misdirected.  If you do not have
>> those rules and regulations then you will have more deaths than you
>prevent.
>>
>> > What of that Naval ship just off the coast?  Do you
>> > think that they might have been terrorists?  Trying to
>> > get in to do mayhem?  You're only saying that you'd
>> > rather die than get a cool lifesaving drink of water
>> > from someone not FEMA certified!  I'm sure you only
>> > feel that way about this issue,  just as long as it
>> > isn't yourself who is about to die.  Whatever happened
>> > to those Compassionate Conservatives?
>>
>> Gee where would you put the ship? Can not dock because the shipping
>> lanes have not been cleared.  So now you have a ship proceed in and hit
>> an obstruction and it sinks.  Now you have a major problem since now the
>> crew needs to be rescued and you have blocked the waterways that will
>> take longer to clear and restore water traffic.  Sure I want them to get
>> help but at the same token I do not want to have a situation created
>> that gets more people in trouble or even dead.
>>
>> >
>> >   It's pretty cruel to let elderly and young people die
>> > of thirst while you hold up lifesaving help to get
>> > paperwork done.  If that's compassionate conservatism,
>> > then it's clearly something this nation can do without,
>> > post haste.
>> >
>>
>> It is not paperwork that was the problem.  IT was local and state
>> officals that held things up.  They failed to follow the emergency plans
>> that had written.  If they had followed them as they are required to do,
>> then the situation would have been better.  What would have been crueler
>> is having supplies going to a location that does not need them while
>> those who needed them did not get them since there was no one organizing
>> the efforts.
>>
>> MRC
>
>Bullshit.....any supplies getting in there would have been better than no
>supplies because they were disorganised. If the supplies had been in there
>then they could have gotten them to other places if needed, or the people
>could have come to them. But by having no supplies there wasn't even a
>chance...
>
  ...And, it wasn't the State and Local gov't that was
turning people with aid and skills away from the area
because they weren't FEMA certified!

Obwon
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