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In article <davidi-2709952222110001@port21.wavenet.com> davidi@wavenet.com (DBY) writes:


>Aaaaaaaaaah!  My oil plug is stripped out.  Actually, it's the ID threads
>that are stripped.  I was going to tap it out this weekend, but I had a
>thought.  Has anyone used those Holycoils, helocoils, hilicoils,
>hilycoils, are something like that.  I'm concerned about merely tapping
>aluminum.  I know it won't last.  I can get those coil things in
>stainless, and they'll last forever, or at least longer than the bike,
>considering I pull that plug out at least twice a month.

You could just use a larger oil plug (if there is room).  These are available 
at most auto parts stores.  Use fresh crush rings, and don't over-tighten it!! 
 You can even get plugs with magnets in them, to collect the metal bits.

If you need to use and insert, try the cylinder type (called something like 
time-serts), as opposed to the coil type.  Use permanent Loctite on the insert.

Neil Blanchard

In article <davidi-2709952222110001@port21.wavenet.com>,
DBY <davidi@wavenet.com> wrote:
>Aaaaaaaaaah!  My oil plug is stripped out.  Actually, it's the ID threads
>that are stripped.  I was going to tap it out this weekend, but I had a
>thought.  Has anyone used those Holycoils, helocoils, hilicoils,
>hilycoils, are something like that.  I'm concerned about merely tapping

I was in a similar situation, and a heli-coil was exactly the
right solution.  Lasted longer than the rest of the bike, and I
never had a problem with it.

My $0.02,
 - Gord
-- 
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Gord Brown, gbrown@bnr.ca
"Kirk travelled through the Great Barrier, met God, and wasn't even
 impressed." -- #4 of the top 100 reasons why Kirk is better than Picard

davidi@wavenet.com (DBY) writes:

>Aaaaaaaaaah!  My oil plug is stripped out.  Actually, it's the ID threads
snip
>thought.  Has anyone used those Holycoils, helocoils, hilicoils,
>hilycoils, are something like that.  I'm concerned about merely tapping
>aluminum.  I know it won't last.  I can get those coil things in
snip

>Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

Helicoils will work fine but you need to drill out the old threads, re-tap
the hole for the helicoil, and thread it in with Loctite. Naturally, there
will be aluminum chips everywhere, so Q1: does your bike have a removable
oil pan/sump? if so, you're in luck, remove it. 
The other option is to (again) remove the oil pan (or case!) and have the hole
welded up (heliarc), and retapped for the oil plug bolt. Weld material is
much stronger than the original casting.

Good Luck!
S.
-- 
#   Scott Lilliott -- csl@swl.msd.ray.com
 #  AMA #600897   "You don't have to live on the edge,
#   DoD #0227      but you have to know where it is" - me
 #  INOA #8563	MSF Instr. -- VFR750 and a coupla Nortons

In <davidi-2709952222110001@port21.wavenet.com> davidi@wavenet.com
(DBY) writes: 
>
>Aaaaaaaaaah!  My oil plug is stripped out.  Actually, it's the ID
threads
>that are stripped.  I was going to tap it out this weekend, but I had
a
>thought.  Has anyone used those Holycoils, helocoils, hilicoils,
>hilycoils, are something like that.  I'm concerned about merely
tapping
>aluminum.  I know it won't last.  I can get those coil things in
>stainless, and they'll last forever, or at least longer than the bike,
>considering I pull that plug out at least twice a month.
>
>Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
>

Wheather or not you helicoil (not necessary IMO) buy and use a torque
wrench from now on.

BTW I can't imagine that you put 6,000 miles a month on your bike. I
can't imagine any other reason for you to fool with the drain plug
every two weeks.

Dave Smalley

Helacoil is the way to go. However, before you go out and buy the kit and 
tap it may be cheaper to pay a shop to do it. But, then again, how are 
you going to get your bike to a shop with no oil.

Bob




DBY (davidi@wavenet.com) wrote:
: Aaaaaaaaaah!  My oil plug is stripped out.  Actually, it's the ID threads
: that are stripped.  I was going to tap it out this weekend, but I had a
: thought.  Has anyone used those Holycoils, helocoils, hilicoils,
: hilycoils, are something like that.  I'm concerned about merely tapping
: aluminum.  I know it won't last.  I can get those coil things in
: stainless, and they'll last forever, or at least longer than the bike,
: considering I pull that plug out at least twice a month.

: Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

: Thanks

: DBY
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Pleasanton, CA.         e-mail bgorman@nellcor.com    	 
                               bgorman@ccnet.com       R1100RS

: >Aaaaaaaaaah!  My oil plug is stripped out.  Actually, it's the ID threads
: snip
: >thought.  Has anyone used those Holycoils, helocoils, hilicoils,
: >hilycoils, are something like that.  I'm concerned about merely tapping
: >aluminum.  I know it won't last.  I can get those coil things in
: snip

: >Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

There are also oversized self-tapping plugs which will work almost as 
good as the other options wigh much less effort.

Bill...

The helicoils are prefered over the Time-Sert, especially for the 
casual mechanic. The helicoil tap will genenerally fit right in the hole
without drilling, if the hole is stripped out really well first!

The oversized drain plug is OK, but I would go for the helicoil first.

The Locktite "Thread-former" product is not suited for critical applications.
I would consider the drain plug to be critical.



Mike Weisman.

Actually the hot setup here is to get one of those rubber compression 
plugs.

They are a sealed rubber tube with a bolt in side. Tightening the bolt 
causes the plug to expand. Excellent seal, wont come out, lasts a long 
time, costs 5 bucks.

Matt

Helicoils - The only way to go in aluminum. I've had great suscess with 
them, but never seen one large enough for a oil drain plug. One thing you 
want to be sure to do is get the toughest grade of loctite. Do it right 
the first time.
Mike - BMW bigot.

On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, DBY wrote:

> Aaaaaaaaaah!  My oil plug is stripped out.  Actually, it's the ID threads
> that are stripped.  I was going to tap it out this weekend, but I had a
> thought.  Has anyone used those Holycoils, helocoils, hilicoils,
> hilycoils, are something like that.  I'm concerned about merely tapping
> aluminum.  I know it won't last.  I can get those coil things in
> stainless, and they'll last forever, or at least longer than the bike,
> considering I pull that plug out at least twice a month.
> 
> Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> DBY
> 
> 

Scott Lilliott (csl@swl.msd.ray.com) wrote:
: davidi@wavenet.com (DBY) writes:

: >Aaaaaaaaaah!  My oil plug is stripped out.  Actually, it's the ID threads
: snip
: >thought.  Has anyone used those Holycoils, helocoils, hilicoils,
: >hilycoils, are something like that.  I'm concerned about merely tapping
: >aluminum.  I know it won't last.  I can get those coil things in
: snip

: >Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

: Helicoils will work fine but you need to drill out the old threads, re-tap
: the hole for the helicoil, and thread it in with Loctite. Naturally, there
: will be aluminum chips everywhere, so Q1: does your bike have a removable
: oil pan/sump? if so, you're in luck, remove it. 
 
I did my spark plug hole, and instead of inverting the bike to prevent metal
chips from falling in, I just put plenty of grease on the tap and removed the
chips from the tap every now and again.

: Good Luck!
: S.
: -- 
Dave Moore.

In article <a27cb$fe1.190@news.ottawa.net>,
	Shannon Ryan <nonlinear@ottawa.net> writes:

:: hgfhfgh

Gesundheit.

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In article <a27cb$fe1.190@news.ottawa.net>
           nonlinear@ottawa.net "Shannon Ryan" writes:

> hgfhfgh

Yes, helicoil is fine, but must you speak with your mouth full?

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In article <a27cb$fe1.190@news.ottawa.net> Shannon Ryan <nonlinear@ottawa.net> writes:
>From: Shannon Ryan <nonlinear@ottawa.net>
>Subject: Re: Stripped Oil Plug Question
>Date: Mon, 02 Oct 1995 20:14:01 GMT

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