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Re: Newark City Subway Car spotted in San Francisco

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From: M Greene
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 00:00
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On 20 Sep 1995 fishman@panix.com(Harvey Fishman)wrote and responded to
mgreene@omni.voicenet.com(some guy from some place in Pennsylvania)
(I put my original post in to set it all in context.)

> 
> > 	The B&QT cars were 8'4" wide, like the SEPTA cars.  Inciden-
> > tally, I think one of the ex-SEPTA cars is painted in the postwar BOT
> > paint scheme, which, of course, was never authentically used by a
> > postwar PCC, though the 1936 PCC's in Brooklyn all wore them.
> 
> You mean the green and silver?  My first recollection of the B&QT cars was
> in the early forties when they were painted the standard BOT maroon and
> buff.  I do not think that the green and silver was ever under the BOT.
> The NYCTA was already in charge when that change was made.
	Wrong!  The first PCC car to be painted in green and silver 
appeared in 1946.  In fact, some older cars (6000's)got green and sil-
ver, and they were retired in 1951, 2 years before the creation of the
NYCTA. The large GM bus orders from 1948 also had the green and silver
scheme.


> 
> Do you know if the 8000s and other cars WERE actually wider than the PCCs
> or was that just my imagination?
> 

	Can't say for sure, not being from Brooklyn.  However, if one
looks at pictures of Brooklyn 8000's, and compares them with Philadel-
phia's 8000's, I would guess that the Brooklyn 8000's were wider than
PCC's, though by only inches at most(in the case of Philadelphia, it 
was 2 inches, with Philadelphia's 8000's being 8'6" wide).

	Hope I've refreshed your memory.

	Later

	Michael T. Greene
                                           
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From: M Greene <mgreene@omni.voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: Newark City Subway Car spotted in San Francisco
Date: 1995/09/22
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