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In <jwhitesi-3006961918360001@cnc098033.concentric.net> jwhitesi@concentric.net (John Whiteside) writes:

>In article <31d5ee06.1366519@news.clark.net>, cwinters@clark.net (Chris
>Winters) wrote:

>> There are plenty of places to live in DC where you don't need a
>> car. It's been six months since I've had access to one and
>> haven't had the need -- that's not to say I haven't had the
>> desire... And I'm moving to another place in a month where I
>> shouldn't need one either. It's possible in places other than
>> oh-so-holy new york.

>Well, I know. That's why I never suggested otherwise.

>It's very possible to live in Boston, or DC, or San Francisco with no car.
>I just think that a car shoots much farther up the list of luxuries you
>might want in those places than it does in New York. 

>I'm always amazed by the density of services and shopping in Manhattan. It
>seems that you're never far from the places you need to go to buy food,
>stop at an ATM, pick something up at the drugstore, etc. Car-free life in
>Boston was an endless series of walking trips to places not particularly
>conveniently located, and DC seems to be built much the same way. So it's
>doable, but having a vehicle makes life considerable easier. (_Depending_
>on a vehicle, on the other hand, can be a real pain.)

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>John Whiteside / jwhitesi@concentric.net
>http://www.concentric.net/~jwhitesi

It's even more amazing than that. We have friends who live nine blocks
north of us and one block west. We share almost no stores, restaurants,
facilities. We use different supermarkets, different drug stores, 
different ATMs, different coffee places, different restaurants for
ordering food in, etc. The only place we overlap is that we both
use some of the same city wide specility shops. (Mostly food places)
This is both a cause and consequence of Manhattan's population
density. A car is often not only unnecessary, but actually undesirable.
I work outside of the city, so I counter-commute. My normal algorithim
for dealing with meeting in the city after work is to drive directly
to my paid for garage, get rid of the car, and then use mass transit
to get to where I'm meeting people. 

		- David