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Article #301Re: Metrocard Gripe
From: David Joseph Grabiner
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 00:00
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 00:00
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In article <wb8fozDsnq2r.334@netcom.com>, David Lesher writes:
> tbs3y@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Captain Tristan Siegel LAW III) writes:
>> You just buy a little ticket that you keep in your pocket to
>> prove you paid your fare. There is no entrance system. You
>> just walk in and sit down. No one asks for your ticket when
>> you get in, but the "conductors" walk up and down periodically
>> asking to see your ticket. It's basically an honor system, but
>> with high fines if you get caught cheating.
> This is popular on trams in Europe. You also see in on the Light
> Rail in Baltimore.
Metrolink in LA (the suburban system) also uses it.
Egged in Israel is somewhwere in between. You're supposed to show your
monthly pass to the driver, or buy a ticket, but drivers are often busy
and don't check at busy stops, and nobody checks carefully (I've never
seen a driver check that I had my name and passport number properly
entered on my pass.) Police occasionally board buses and check that
everyone has valid tickets.
> +'s
> No fixed facilities {toll barrier}. Thus suitable for frequent
> stops.
> Large # of doors -- no 'choke point' as when everyone must pass
> the driver. Ergo, shorter layovers even at big stations.
> -'s
> More fraud.
> As traffic goes up, so does the cost of enforcement.
But that seems to be an issue with conventional tickets as well.
--
David Grabiner, grabiner@math.huji.ac.il, http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~grabiner
I speak at the Hebrew University, but not for it.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 112ce4,bff7d4d41bac2833 X-Google-Attributes: gid112ce4,public X-Google-Thread: 10ca13,bff7d4d41bac2833 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ca13,public X-Google-Thread: 101049,ba84b781c3041450 X-Google-Attributes: gid101049,public From: grabiner@sunset.ma.huji.ac.il (David Joseph Grabiner) Subject: Re: Metrocard Gripe Date: 1996/06/10 Message-ID: <uco4tok6m4b.fsf@sunset.ma.huji.ac.il> X-Deja-AN: 159416209 distribution: na sender: grabiner@sunset.ma.huji.ac.il references: <4p6p34$j89@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> newsgroups: nyc.transit,dc.general,misc.transport.urban-transit